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Thread: How is it possible to make one of these (link inside)?

Khormid
Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:17 pm
#14

I read that a few weapons from pre-cu came over better than cap, supposedly they were all fixed. Possibly this one was in a crate or something that caused it not to be fixed?



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Khormid
Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:24 pm
#15

If it wasnt a pre-cu hammer that trans over wrong it cant be made post cu it defies the caps. Trust us when crafting if you go over a cap the system takes the stat down to cap!




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Adefo-Oami
Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:44 pm
#16


I'm pretty sure this hammer was made just after the CU, and correct me if i'm wrong. But I thought weapons didn't have caps for a short while...



Even if i'm wrong. Its still possible with pre-cu legendary components. There was once a flamer made by someone that used all legendary components. pre-cu, it was 0.1 speed, and some decent damage. Just make a hammer post-cu with legendary comps, and bam. there ya go..




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CorenLanra
Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:48 pm
#17



BattleSw0rd wrote:



Rinviero wrote:

It's an exploit.... /report the owner

There is no way possible to get stats like that, 476 base DPS / 82 SAC on a power hammer is just NOT possible.




oh sure it isnt....just because its never been done before doesnt mean its IMPOSSIBLE.....thats a nice hammer...and its sliced..NOTE that its SLICED.....if these stats were pre slice, id be suspicious......god damn every one of u who says "omg that weapons got better stats then what i have....it MUST be exploited"




Ok here's the deal, the pre-slice speed theoretically is 1.88 that is dividing 1.81 by .96 (1.00-.04=.96). There is just no way you can craft a PH with 82 SAC with that damage, SAC, and cubes. The only way I know of to SAC cap a hammer is to use Cubes, that limits the components to about -14 SAC (maybe -15) and +30 _maybe_ +40 damage on solidifiers. Slap those into a core and you cant get the speed low enough.



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Jebredan_Xoel
Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:56 pm
#18



CorenLanra wrote:


BattleSw0rd wrote:



Rinviero wrote:

It's an exploit.... /report the owner

There is no way possible to get stats like that, 476 base DPS / 82 SAC on a power hammer is just NOT possible.




oh sure it isnt....just because its never been done before doesnt mean its IMPOSSIBLE.....thats a nice hammer...and its sliced..NOTE that its SLICED.....if these stats were pre slice, id be suspicious......god damn every one of u who says "omg that weapons got better stats then what i have....it MUST be exploited"




Ok here's the deal, the pre-slice speed theoretically is 1.88 that is dividing 1.81 by .96 (1.00-.04=.96). There is just no way you can craft a PH with 82 SAC with that damage, SAC, and cubes. The only way I know of to SAC cap a hammer is to use Cubes, that limits the components to about -14 SAC (maybe -15) and +30 _maybe_ +40 damage on solidifiers. Slap those into a core and you cant get the speed low enough.




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Khormid
Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:09 pm
#19

Trust us we arent saying this stuff cause we feel inferior or something; these are the facts since the beginning of cu. There are caps!




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Kregi
Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:01 pm
#20

This hammer is somehow exploited. There is no possible way to get a similar hammer made without using some type of exploit. Highest damage u can get an SAC capped hammer using say 50max agents is about 1115 with an 8% damage slice. Min damage would be about 500.

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galexyskywalker
Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:31 pm
#21

i have a hammer made from a 222 ackley bone it was like 1172 max damage like 2.8 speed maybe and 114 sac...if they used like a 900 bone and experimented only in sac maybe it would happen...so anyone seen a 900 damage bone




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DarkBShadow
Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:38 pm
#22



galexyskywalker wrote:
i have a hammer made from a 222 ackley bone it was like 1172 max damage like 2.8 speed maybe and 114 sac...if they used like a 900 bone and experimented only in sac maybe it would happen...so anyone seen a 900 damage bone






ummm i take it that is without a slice... sigh...

ws made it wrong. you take the 222 damage bone. and you experiment all into SAC then damage or speed depending on what you want more. but it looks like your WS just experimented into damage. and yo u dont do that with a 222 damage bone. you want to get the SAC as low as possible then experiment in damage. And then get a damage slice.



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galexyskywalker
Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:47 pm
#23

anger made it...total speed slice




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laodamas
Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:00 am
#24

Before slice this hammer would have been 1.89 speed 556-1098 damage. Best SAC capped Hammer I have made was 997 max and 2.84 speed. That was made with the best resources to have spawned on Intrepid. Starting % on core and hammer were 29%. Used -14 SAC red cubes and 24 damage paste. Only way possible to cap SAC is using red cubes. For me it would require paste in the 125 ish damage area(Beyond Legendary). Even with legendary Acklay Bone this isnot possible. Experimenting full SAC on the Hammer using an Acklay bone will not hit cap. Then comes the speed, cant personally think of any way possible to get speed that low with SAC capped and damage this high.


If I had to guess, multiple exploits were used to get these stats.





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ShugFlurry
Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:30 am
#25

I wouldn't worry.
You're not on the same server => not going to PvP against it
You're not going to see it on the trade forums/for sale => not going to compete against it
You're playing a game => Although you find it very intriguing mostly you won't be able to beat it so stop worrying.

Tho I don't see why it should be a big secret if it was all due to pre/post-cu components

/shrug



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Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:34 am
#26

I've seen alot of hammers like this.
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