Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: The CU makes Baby Jesus cry
Kryonastus
Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:36 am
#14
Fallen_Snow wrote:
SWoW is born, LoL. Thats gotta be the stupdest thing I've ever read.
Ummm, WoW is using the EQ2 system of combat. EQ2 uses the EQ system of combat. And so, that means, is A=B, and B=C, then A is also equal to C, where A is EQ2, and B is WoW, and C is SWG.
This just became "World of Starquest".
"World of Starquest". Hahahahaha...ha...ha...ah..ahah...ahhwhhaaaaa......:'( /cry
Too right
OmegaX145
Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:01 am
#15
Anyone who has actually played WoW would know what the Devs have presented with the CURB is nothing like WoW.
Additionally: SlaserX is an idiot.
Additionally: SlaserX is an idiot.
Firestem
Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:11 am
#16
I thought it wasnt good to slander people for voicing their opinions. Maybe i read part of this somewhere. Hrmm I cant remember *sighs*
OmegaX145 wrote:
Additionally: SlaserX is an idiot.
RWC
Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:21 am
#17
I really dont like the sound of these weapon stats but lets all hold judgement atleast until the next stage and we can get some crafted versions
Deregen
Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:45 am
#18
Rather than hearing complaints about how weapons got"nerfed" and "suck" now, which is irrelevant since everything else including player hp totals, armor mitigation, special attack costs, and so on got changed too......I'd much rather see someone who has time totry it outon TC post an overview of how weapon experimentation has changed to work with the new system.
I'm committed to having to reprototype every single weapon I have a draft schematic for once the CU goes live, and I'll probably end up throwing out a portion of what's on my vendors now because the conversion results in undesireable stats. OMG, the devs hate me. Why am I getting nerfed?! I don't even DO combat.......oh wait, that's the same thing that happens when a newer, better resource spawns, like the crazy plumbum that naritus got a month ago.
Change happens. Deal with it.
I for one am looking forward to having combat being more balanced. Even though it doesn't affect my gameplay personally, FotM profession templates,everyone and their brother getting buffs andsoloing krayt dragons and kimogilas, and half of my draft schematics being worthless on the market except as curiosities kinda annoyed me. I want to play in a balanced game where everything has a purpose and a place and actually gets used. You know, diversity. So if that takes some nerfing to do, bring on the nerf bat. It's long overdue.
IstecOha
Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:15 am
#19
SlaserX wrote:
Whelp, now it's official. I've experienced the CU and now I am pissed and sad at the same time. Anything you liked before, forget it, it's long gone. Weapons? Absolutely worthless. I cant believe this... I feel so ripped off of my time and money. I'ma weaponsmith over on kauri as some of you may know, and what I'm seeing does nothing but piss me off. Not only did they manage to nerf almost every weapon, all at once, they put all the weapons on a bell curve. Low level weapons will hit like CDEFs where high level master box weapons will hit for around 2x how it was before. I dont know how they've changed condition yet, but consider this: All weapons I've used so far have 3k cond. DXR6bs, worthless, Berserkers, worthless, T21s, worthless, SG82s, worthless, Jawa Ion Rifles, worthless. That's just higher end rifles that you're likely using right now.
A breakdown of some of the rifle changes, and the stats from TC:
T21s - Energy
2975 Cond
437-875 @ 2.5
Accuracy Bonus: 0
Wound: 2.4%
Range: 0-65m
Special Skills Cost: 102
Estimated Base DPS: 262.4/sec
Berserker - Kinetic
2975 Cond
328-656 @ 2.5
Accuracy Bonus: 0
Wound: 2.5%
Range: 0-65m
Special Skills Cost: 102
Estimated Base DPS: 196.8/sec
Massasi Rifle- Energy
2040 Cond
482-962 @ 2.8
Accuracy Bonus: 0
Wound: 1.9%
Range: 0-65m
Special Skills Cost: 102
Estimated Base DPS: 262.9/sec
Explosive Shell Sniper Rifle- Kinetic
2975 Cond
382-765 @ 2.5
Accuracy Bonus: 0
Wound: 0.4%
Range: 0-65m
Special Skills Cost: 102
Estimated Base DPS: 229.2/sec
LD-1 Rifle- Kinetic
2975 Cond
382-765 @ 2.5
Accuracy Bonus: 0
Wound: 0.7%
Range: 0-65m
Special Skills Cost: 102
Estimated Base DPS: 229.2/sec
Heavy Acid Rifle - Energy
2975 Cond
187-374 @ 2.8
Elemental Type: Acid
Elemental Damage: 110
Accuracy Bonus: 0
Wound: 2.9%
Range: 0-45m
Special Skills Cost: 121
Estimated Base DPS: 101.8/sec
Estimated Elemental DPS: 40/sec
Estimated Total DPS: 141.8/sec
Jawa Ion Rifle- Energy
2975 Cond
329-658 @ 2.5
Elemental Type: ELECTRICITY
Elemental Damage: 110
Accuracy Bonus: 0
Wound: 2.9%
Range: 0-65m
Special Skills Cost: 102
Estimated Base DPS: 197.2/sec
Estimated Elemental DPS: 44/sec
Estimated Total DPS: 241.2/sec
Tenloss DXR-6b Rifle - Energy
3060Cond
328-656 @ 2.5
Accuracy Bonus: 0
Wound: 3.8%
Range: 0-65m
Special Skills Cost: 102
Estimated Base DPS: 196.8/sec
Bowcaster- Kinetic
2975Cond
36-72 @ 2.5
Accuracy Bonus: 0
Wound: 1.4%
Range: 0-30m
Special Skills Cost: 102
Estimated Base DPS: 21.6/sec
YAY! WOOKS GET NERFED AGAIN!
Well boys and girls, I wouldnt say I didnt see this comming, but it happened. Geo pistols got *NERFED*. They only do energy damage... they're quicker than most weapons, but they are sub-par compared to other weapons. Oh, and forget the idea of the CU making things easier to understand and adapt to. The learning curve is like a stab to the abdomen. Not quite as bad as EVE online, but it's getting there. It doesnt help no one has any armor, and we cant make any, so we dont know how that's going to play out, but honestly, what's the point. Weapons being uber, lasting forever, grenades that never run out, big flashy text telling you what's going on.... that's not what you do to capture your audience. It really does look like SWG is taking a turn for the UO. They're trying to make it too noob friendly, but this is making the rest of the game pay. I am starting to regret my investment in SWG.
I'll edit it to update with more info as I get it.
PS. The command queue is GONE
Message Edited by SlaserX on 03-31-2005 06:43 PM
whatever floats your boat dude. I like what i have seen on TC so far, its like combat in swg died and went to haven. Now the frogie wepons are never what you would see on regular servers crafted with regular resurces. So dont base those stats and think we will be hiting that and another thing those wepons will be tested during the next phases atm you should be testing the new player leveling system and reporting your concerns not whining about being nerfed and not being uber.
shankmaster
Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:26 am
#20
Super high condition huh.... you mean all 2900 of it????? reverse what you said fix the condition or give us all adk's 
haha
haha
Phaelyn
Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:29 am
#21
That's not slander.. if it's in print, It's Libel...
Firestem wrote:
I thought it wasnt good to slander people for voicing their opinions. Maybe i read part of this somewhere. Hrmm I cant remember *sighs*
OmegaX145 wrote:
Additionally: SlaserX is an idiot.
ShugFlurry
Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:43 am
#22
Phaelyn wrote:That's not slander.. if it's in print, It's Libel...
Firestem wrote:I thought it wasnt good to slander people for voicing their opinions. Maybe i read part of this somewhere. Hrmm I cant remember *sighs*
OmegaX145 wrote:
Additionally: SlaserX is an idiot.
You been watching spider-man?
Oh a Dev said thatthe conditions would be about a third what they are now when it hits live.
Shakes
Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:51 am
#23
I love the "Sky is falling" threads. They are so entertaining as the original poster continues to try to back up his "opinion" long after others have proven him wrong.
We need a reality show featuring people like this
RSQViper
Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:16 am
#24
On top of all this, let's not forget one thing... Frog weapons do and have ALWAYS sucked!!!
Don't look at these weapons and think "this is as good as they get". HAHA! I remember getting a flamer out of a frog and an LLC. Together their maxes added up to 550 for crying out loud.
Once you get to making the weapons you will know, not now. Uh uh.
AS for that, devs... put thejust below the bestweapons INTO the frogs. Why? Because that is what will be on live and testing without them is not wise. It will make us think we are underpowered, you will adjust, and it will be out of whack agian.
THIS IS IMPORTANT. PLEASE ADJUST.
Ipseck
Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:41 am
#25
this is awesome. Its in beta for 1 day and already its the end of the world. This type of crap is exactly why we wanted closed alpha/beta time.
LlamaOnDrugs
Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:45 am
#26
As a weaponsmith i'm not at all worried.
Everyone will always need weapons, and this is the COMBAT update, and unless im mistaken and some of our ranks have become UBER WEAPONSMITHS OF DOOM then ... well ... good for them.