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Thread: Conversion of existing Weapons question....

Ternque01
Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:27 am
#14

I know I'm not alone in this, but I really feel that the DL-44 and the more iconic Star Wars weapons need to be the most powerful guns out there. It kinda bites to use guns I don't really care about as a master pistoleer. The DE10 is sexy, but come on, I want to use a DL-44 as a master smuggler, and a scout blaster at master pistoleer.


It would be nice to let the newbies keep the DL-44, but allow masters to own upgraded, non-newbie-certed versions of these guns as well. Why do the newbs get all the good stuff?



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kAotiC_HeRo
Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:46 am
#15






Derp-on-Flurry wrote:

I've heard, through the grapevine,that there's a "DPS" conversion rate from this system to the new, so that your weapon's damage per second is equal from now to then.ie Best weapon on the server, will still be the best weapon on the server., even though the stats will be different (the dmg type will change at very least).


"the buzz" on the DOTs are that the strength of the DoT will be directly added to the maximum damage of the weapon.






This is where I lose my train of thought with the DOT's not existing... What about those EXCEPTIONAL T21's with Exceptional DOT's on them as well... Such as:


4085 Mind Fire

125% Pot

1100 Duration

12340 Uses... Does that mean that on top of the Max Damage of the Rifle you are going to add 4085 to it?!?! That would defeat the purpose altogether.... If it was up to me. ( be thankful it's not ), I would remove weapon DOTs altogether to eliminate confusion.



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CorellianCowboy
Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:08 pm
#16



Ternque01 wrote:
I know I'm not alone in this, but I really feel that the DL-44 and the more iconic Star Wars weapons need to be the most powerful guns out there. It kinda bites to use guns I don't really care about as a master pistoleer. The DE10 is sexy, but come on, I want to use a DL-44 as a master smuggler, and a scout blaster at master pistoleer.
It would be nice to let the newbies keep the DL-44, but allow masters to own upgraded, non-newbie-certed versions of these guns as well. Why do the newbs get all the good stuff?





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JohnnyMiracle
Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:33 pm
#17






Helios_SOE wrote:








Victor-Steiner-Davion wrote:

This is a silly question, but I need to ask:


If noob weapons can only be made with basic parts, what happens to the weapons we've made with high end parts? I've made a bunch of nym and krayt enhanced D-18's and DL44's and I enjoy using them.But if they become useless due to a massive damage nerf....






If you had the most powerfulDL44 available on the server before the conversion process, you will still have the most powerful DL44 on the server after conversion. All weapon stats will, however, be brought within a reasonable range of their post-CU target numbers. For balance reasons we can no longer allowoverpowered novice weapons, which wasamajorreason for no longer allowing advanced components in novice level weapons.

Message Edited by Helios_SOE on 04-01-2005 04:26 PM





I am not a Jedi, but wasn't the same thing said for Lightsabers pre patch 9?



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WookieIsshe
Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:32 pm
#18






Helios_SOE wrote:





kAotiC_HeRo wrote:





Derp-on-Flurry wrote:

I've heard, through the grapevine,that there's a "DPS" conversion rate from this system to the new, so that your weapon's damage per second is equal from now to then.ie Best weapon on the server, will still be the best weapon on the server., even though the stats will be different (the dmg type will change at very least).


"the buzz" on the DOTs are that the strength of the DoT will be directly added to the maximum damage of the weapon.






This is where I lose my train of thought with the DOT's not existing... What about those EXCEPTIONAL T21's with Exceptional DOT's on them as well... Such as:


4085 Mind Fire

125% Pot

1100 Duration

12340 Uses... Does that mean that on top of the Max Damage of the Rifle you are going to add 4085 to it?!?! That would defeat the purpose altogether.... If it was up to me. ( be thankful it's not ), I would remove weapon DOTs altogether to eliminate confusion.




DOTs of this sort will indeed be removed completely from all weapons. The point values of the DOTs will not be converted on a 1-1 ratio; instead a formula is used to derive a more reasonable value for the end weapon. All weapon valueswill be modified to be within acceptable (from a balance perspective) ranges of the new weapon target numbers. The truth of the matter is that there are some very overpowered DOT weapons in the world, and those weapons will no doubt lose much of their punch. These weapons should, however, still be relativelyexcellent weapons within the new system - just not the overpowered uber weapons they are now.





That is music to my ears. I love that there will no longer be these god weapons out there. Balance will make this game extremely fun again.



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demonbane423
Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:45 pm
#19

Helios im curious of one thing,,,, the frog on tc5 is giving out power hammers with 875 max and scythes with 707 max,,,, which is definetly higher then the average crafted weapons, by far,,,, are we to assume that with the CU and the loss of armor pierce the damage on our weapons will actually be going up,,,

so my 808 dmg powerhammer lets say will actually be increaseing,,,, I am just curious because to reach 808 in the current system you need acklay bones over 200 dmg and a good slice,,, were as if the frog is giving out 875 dmg and 2.5 speed it makes me wonder what we will get converted to,,, is our damage actually goind up not down?

thanks for your time

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Icicleman
Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:16 pm
#20

what would happen to my bowcaster with 914max? i saw on TC that bowcasters are noe like 25-74



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demonbane423
Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:23 pm
#21

bowcaster 914,,, is that exceptional?




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Icicleman
Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:51 pm
#22



demonbane423 wrote:
bowcaster 914,,, is that exceptional?




yea

2.5 spd 559-914



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RSQViper
Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:56 pm
#23

Then reguardless it will become an exceptional bowcaster. Maybe not compared to all the other weapons out there, but compared to other bowcasters it will be exceptional.



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Icicleman
Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:30 pm
#24

If it drops to like 100-300 just to be exceptional in the view of bowcasters, that would suck.



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Alristico
Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:36 pm
#25






RSQViper wrote:
Then reguardless it will become an exceptional bowcaster. Maybe not compared to all the other weapons out there, but compared to other bowcasters it will be exceptional.





but what if bowcasters are the equivalent of a cdef in the CU or a very low level weapon. So if the average bowcaster will be 75 max dmg his will convert to a WOPPING UBER 125dmg!!! and he'll have the best noob weapon around.



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RSQViper
Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:52 pm
#26

Yup. Exactly. There are going to be weapons that this happens to as well as armor. Just so happens yours is a Bowcaster that was really good in live. But, at the same time the bowcaster on the frog may not reflect bowcasters, but based on where it is in the wookiee tree.. I suspect it's somewhere around there although they will probably be a descent amount better.



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