Weaponsmith Archive

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roxby wrote:

I agree with Summerflame. These components were way too unbalancing, and i voted for their conversion too. I had maybe 1000 stocks, and yes, I had many crap weapon conversions too (Krayted geos spring to mind).

There is now no market for standard carbines and rifles made without them on Chimera. Theygive+20 (or so) to min and max damage, and -6/-7 off SAC.

One of the most senior smith left on Chimera had very few of these stocks, which for a dedicated long term WS player would be completely gutting. I know some of the other smiths have rushed schems to use em up, so the market will be flooded for a while, but at least we wont still be seeing them for years to come.

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i just hope they also

REconvert my 67 krayt handlers so they get decent stats

Recovert all the pre CU t21's that converted Junk! all 300 of them.

reconvert Geo power cubes

Convert other loot over

Make schemetics like the Scythe and geo pistol worth something since i paid quite alot for these.

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P__Day wrote:

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roxby wrote:

I agree with Summerflame. These components were way too unbalancing, and i voted for their conversion too. I had maybe 1000 stocks, and yes, I had many crap weapon conversions too (Krayted geos spring to mind).

There is now no market for standard carbines and rifles made without them on Chimera. Theygive+20 (or so) to min and max damage, and -6/-7 off SAC.

One of the most senior smith left on Chimera had very few of these stocks, which for a dedicated long term WS player would be completely gutting. I know some of the other smiths have rushed schems to use em up, so the market will be flooded for a while, but at least we wont still be seeing them for years to come.

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i just hope they also

REconvert my 67 krayt handlers so they get decent stats

Recovert all the pre CU t21's that converted Junk! all 300 of them.

reconvert Geo power cubes

Convert other loot over

Make schemetics like the Scythe and geo pistol worth something since i paid quite alot for these.

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Fully agree on these notes and I think we should push for it through our correspondent

I'm sorry, I just do not see it. 1000 stocks? Maybe that's true, but how many people would have that many on hand? I'm betting very few. My plan was to have zero components/weapons before the CU. It hit about 2 weeks before I expected it would. I had a massive 9 pre CU stocks of which I used 1. And I was unimpressed with the amount of damage it added to the weapon I used it on (as was the customer). The pre CU components I was able to use looked good at first. But after the second resource balance, the DPS was actually lower than weapons crafted with post CU components. So the overall effect was detrimental to anything crafted pre CU. Except for stocks. So we are talking 1 component that can only be used on 2 types of weapons - rifles and carbines. And not even all of those. I'm sorry. Heavy weapons too. But as someone with a commando alt, an extra 40 points in damage is not "unbalancing". So while we have several weapons that have issues associated with them. While we have entire classes of weapons nerfed because one type of damage does not work (elemental). While the resource requirements for many weapons is totally out of balance with the damage they do. We are supposed to applaud the fact that one type of component has been nerfed because it was "unbalancing": I shall agree to disagree. And if you think I was name calling. I apologize. But of all the things broken with the CU, this was the least troublesome to me.

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Siymon wrote:
Wish they would fix all pre-cu ABPH's made with krayt tissue. I got 50+ stacks sitting around with the best one being 60 max damage and that was one that I use a 100+ tissue on. Maybe we will get lucky and they will fix these/

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While they'll be easily able to "fix" stocks, I'll be really surprised if they'll be able to correct nerfed pre-cu enhanced ABPHs. Put simply, the original stats are lost and I don't believe they'll go to a back-up to try and recover them. I'm guessing they'll leave ABPHs alone, or at worst, nerf them again to remove the -6 SAC.

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JohnAdams wrote:
I'm sorry, I just do not see it. 1000 stocks? Maybe that's true, but how many people would have that many on hand? I'm betting very few. My plan was to have zero components/weapons before the CU. It hit about 2 weeks before I expected it would. I had a massive 9 pre CU stocks of which I used 1. And I was unimpressed with the amount of damage it added to the weapon I used it on (as was the customer). The pre CU components I was able to use looked good at first. But after the second resource balance, the DPS was actually lower than weapons crafted with post CU components. So the overall effect was detrimental to anything crafted pre CU. Except for stocks. So we are talking 1 component that can only be used on 2 types of weapons - rifles and carbines. And not even all of those. I'm sorry. Heavy weapons too. But as someone with a commando alt, an extra 40 points in damage is not "unbalancing". So while we have several weapons that have issues associated with them. While we have entire classes of weapons nerfed because one type of damage does not work (elemental). While the resource requirements for many weapons is totally out of balance with the damage they do. We are supposed to applaud the fact that one type of component has been nerfed because it was "unbalancing": I shall agree to disagree. And if you think I was name calling. I apologize. But of all the things broken with the CU, this was the least troublesome to me.

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VBUs didnt convert, Stocks are still -20 SAC instead of the -10 SAC for post-cu I hit when experimenting down the speed.

Oh and formfitted stocks kept their dam which is nice

I guess I underestimate you guys' component stockpiling. I only had a few crates around and just looked at it as a limited time bonus that would dry up in a couple months. The point is that they take effort to correct this short term effect and ignore the final products that converted to trash. The statement about how things would convert relative to how nice they were pre cu was a blatant lie and the strangest thing of all is that I have items w/ the same seriel number that converted completely differently. Anyone want a pre prenerf krayt FWG? 250 base dps. I see the logic in addressing these components even if I don't see it as a big deal in the long term. However, ruining components and weapons we've already invested time, credits, resources and enhancements in is just plain wrong.

Anyone wanna buy a pre CU 630 max geo pistol with a base dps of 200something sliced... oh i forgot the post CU DL44XT's are better

0.0 Pre-cu d18 for sale.

Thanks to everyone who started making full runs of weapons with these and to those who were bugging them. I have about 1000 pre nerf stocks that I was using to offset the screwjob we received with the krayt handlers. I've been making all my new weapons with all brand new components, rather than have to explain to my customers why my weapons suddenly dropped off severely in damage in a few months. Those new weapons pretty much sell out everyday by the way.

So now we all get screwed again because apparently this is "game breaking" to so many of you. lol.

Post nerf stocks are already +0.07spd(+0.007, as read by the game) and -14SAC, so all it really was was just a little extra damage and -6SAC. Everyone here knows those krayt handlers aren't coming back, so with the stocks, USED CORRECTLY, everything was fair. But NO, you all had to make a big deal out of it.

Not fair to new smiths? That's a bogus argument. New smiths didn't lose millions when their krayt handlers went kaput, did they? Nope, because they are by definition, NEW smiths.

Thanks again.