Weaponsmith Archive

Thread: The ADK Discussion

Dekka1
Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:34 pm
#196






Rinviero wrote:



Why is that LOL? I know a good number of people with as least enough to ADK a full suit of armor and a few weapons.... I have 14 of them ATM and getting some more soon.

Message Edited by Rinviero on 11-01-2005 02:07 PM




It's LOL because everyone knows most people have 20+ ADK's.


No really, I polled my hunting party.










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Muzz
Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:29 am
#197






sm1550 wrote:






Ecnirp wrote:

Reading some of these posts makes you wonder how we all survived pre-ADK.....









yep, bit of an overreaction by some people. only people who seem to have a valid complaint are jedi who are the only profession who can no longer craft or loot weapon components on par with pre-cu components.


everyone else? well we'd just buy more weapons and armor.





Awww poor ickle Jedayee. All 100,000 of them.



Orgama

Weaponsmith (12pt), Artisan (14pt), Merchant, Force Crafting Master
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Ecnirp
Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:31 am
#198






Muzz wrote:





sm1550 wrote:






Ecnirp wrote:

Reading some of these posts makes you wonder how we all survived pre-ADK.....









yep, bit of an overreaction by some people. only people who seem to have a valid complaint are jedi who are the only profession who can no longer craft or loot weapon components on par with pre-cu components.


everyone else? well we'd just buy more weapons and armor.





Awww poor ickle Jedayee. All 100,000 of them.





Thats just Bria
sm1550
Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:40 am
#199






Muzz wrote:





sm1550 wrote:






Ecnirp wrote:

Reading some of these posts makes you wonder how we all survived pre-ADK.....









yep, bit of an overreaction by some people. only people who seem to have a valid complaint are jedi who are the only profession who can no longer craft or loot weapon components on par with pre-cu components.


everyone else? well we'd just buy more weapons and armor.





Awww poor ickle Jedayee. All 100,000 of them.






yep, 'poor ickle jedayee'.


while I obviously have no problem with some fix for ADK's to help bolster crafters, obviously you are a bit more juvenile. guess it isn't just the jedi forum with idiots.



Muzz
Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:46 am
#200






sm1550 wrote:





Muzz wrote:





sm1550 wrote:






Ecnirp wrote:

Reading some of these posts makes you wonder how we all survived pre-ADK.....









yep, bit of an overreaction by some people. only people who seem to have a valid complaint are jedi who are the only profession who can no longer craft or loot weapon components on par with pre-cu components.


everyone else? well we'd just buy more weapons and armor.





Awww poor ickle Jedayee. All 100,000 of them.






yep, 'poor ickle jedayee'.


while I obviously have no problem with some fix for ADK's to help bolster crafters, obviously you are a bit more juvenile. guess it isn't just the jedi forum with idiots.








Okay smart ass, let's look at your post in a bit more detail....


I quote... "jedi who are the only profession who can no longer craft or loot weapon components on par with pre-cu components."


Oh yeah? How do you work that one out? Tell me what I can now usefully use my Nym Motors in, my Acklay Bones, my green and yellow Geo Cubes... i'm sure there are alot more but I can't be arsed to list them.


All those items cost a pretty penny pre-CU.


Say goodnight to the folks Gracie.





Orgama

Weaponsmith (12pt), Artisan (14pt), Merchant, Force Crafting Master
ludio ludius utpote 2003, in pello utpote 11/2005
maigy
Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:49 am
#201






Chumplestilskin wrote:

Said a lot of stuff I agree with...(see above)






You have some good points about no more challnge,I got my ADKdDam capped/Sac Capped fwFWG5, I got my ADKd Dam capped/SAC Capped Trando Hunting Rifle... I got my suit of ADKd +350 Health 8K Energy Resists Rebel Recon Armor with all the pistol/defenseAAs I will ever need. So, whats the point now... Ihave more than enough moeny to keep me in food and drink for the next 10 years.There is very little loot left in the game that will improve my character, adn since noneof my stuff willdecay I dont need to worry abotu replacing it. I even have 5 wild force crystals 7 more and I will be "perma WIldForce Crystalle",I have nothing left to gain, I can run all the quests which I already have done... I can PvP which is harder and harder to find. So I log in on my Main(crafter) once a day restock some vendors check for custom orders, then log off and go play city of villians.




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SkiMask
Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:50 am
#202


******Let me clarify this for everyone both who agree with me and especially the ones who dont*******


I say over priced because i know without doubt i can make better weapons virtually for free


I am weaponsmith and my main is a MRM/MBH, The items required to make these weapons (IE: Krayt Tissues, Power Cells, etc.) drop off mobsI solo easily. Most i have invested in it is time to hunt the mobs and about 200k or less a week on foods, whichhunt and buyanyway, and time to collect***FREE*** Resources. SoNo, I dont thinkyour time, free resources and free material are worth7 mil.

And im sure i know what your next response will be---


Im not a MRM/MBH you say??? I cant solo those things all day you say????? or i cant kill mobs who drop power cells????


not my problem


Im not paying out large amounts of cash because you have poor business sense.

as for Bio-linking ADK no i see nothing wrong with that idea at all, wouldnt do much for the priceing - maybe even make them more expensive than they are now, but would make it so once its used cant be resold.

Message Edited by SkiMask on 11-02-2005 08:03 AM



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RingSting_IOM
Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:20 am
#203






SkiMask wrote:


******Let me clarify this for everyone both who agree with me and especially the ones who dont*******


I say over priced because i know without doubt i can make better weapons virtually for free


I am weaponsmith and my main is a MRM/MBH, The items required to make these weapons (IE: Krayt Tissues, Power Cells, etc.) drop off mobsI solo easily. Most i have invested in it is time to hunt the mobs and about 200k or less a week on foods, whichhunt and buyanyway, and time to collect***FREE*** Resources. SoNo, I dont thinkyour time, free resources and free material are worth7 mil.

And im sure i know what your next response will be---


Im not a MRM/MBH you say??? I cant solo those things all day you say????? or i cant kill mobs who drop power cells????


not my problem


Im not paying out large amounts of cash because you have poor business sense.

as for Bio-linking ADK no i see nothing wrong with that idea at all, wouldnt do much for the priceing - maybe even make them more expensive than they are now, but would make it so once its used cant be resold.


Message Edited by SkiMask on 11-02-200508:03 AM






What you have just written is redicoulous



Our only option is to buy cells from Hunters, who in turn are selling them for 8mil'ish Is that our bad business sense that the Bounty Hunters are selling them for really high prices?


Not only that where do you get your free resources that make these amazing weapons? Last I saw the resource crates were 5 mil a pop.


You seem to have no idea what you are talking about



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sm1550
Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:56 am
#204






RingSting_IOM wrote:






SkiMask wrote:


******Let me clarify this for everyone both who agree with me and especially the ones who dont*******


I say over priced because i know without doubt i can make better weapons virtually for free


I am weaponsmith and my main is a MRM/MBH, The items required to make these weapons (IE: Krayt Tissues, Power Cells, etc.) drop off mobsI solo easily. Most i have invested in it is time to hunt the mobs and about 200k or less a week on foods, whichhunt and buyanyway, and time to collect***FREE*** Resources. SoNo, I dont thinkyour time, free resources and free material are worth7 mil.

And im sure i know what your next response will be---


Im not a MRM/MBH you say??? I cant solo those things all day you say????? or i cant kill mobs who drop power cells????


not my problem


Im not paying out large amounts of cash because you have poor business sense.

as for Bio-linking ADK no i see nothing wrong with that idea at all, wouldnt do much for the priceing - maybe even make them more expensive than they are now, but would make it so once its used cant be resold.


Message Edited by SkiMask on 11-02-200508:03 AM






What you have just written is redicoulous



Our only option is to buy cells from Hunters, who in turn are selling them for 8mil'ish Is that our bad business sense that the Bounty Hunters are selling them for really high prices?


Not only that where do you get your free resources that make these amazing weapons? Last I saw the resource crates were 5 mil a pop.


You seem to have no idea what you are talking about





Power Free Harvester Kits + No Maintenance on Structures = FREE RESOURCES


30k kits aren't the only source of resources.



RingSting_IOM
Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:02 pm
#205






sm1550 wrote:





RingSting_IOM wrote:






SkiMask wrote:


******Let me clarify this for everyone both who agree with me and especially the ones who dont*******


I say over priced because i know without doubt i can make better weapons virtually for free


I am weaponsmith and my main is a MRM/MBH, The items required to make these weapons (IE: Krayt Tissues, Power Cells, etc.) drop off mobsI solo easily. Most i have invested in it is time to hunt the mobs and about 200k or less a week on foods, whichhunt and buyanyway, and time to collect***FREE*** Resources. SoNo, I dont thinkyour time, free resources and free material are worth7 mil.

And im sure i know what your next response will be---


Im not a MRM/MBH you say??? I cant solo those things all day you say????? or i cant kill mobs who drop power cells????


not my problem


Im not paying out large amounts of cash because you have poor business sense.

as for Bio-linking ADK no i see nothing wrong with that idea at all, wouldnt do much for the priceing - maybe even make them more expensive than they are now, but would make it so once its used cant be resold.


Message Edited by SkiMask on 11-02-200508:03 AM






What you have just written is redicoulous



Our only option is to buy cells from Hunters, who in turn are selling them for 8mil'ish Is that our bad business sense that the Bounty Hunters are selling them for really high prices?


Not only that where do you get your free resources that make these amazing weapons? Last I saw the resource crates were 5 mil a pop.


You seem to have no idea what you are talking about





Power Free Harvester Kits + No Maintenance on Structures = FREE RESOURCES


30k kits aren't the only source of resources.








And how often does a hi end rhodium steel spawn on your server?


Sure you can get free resources but not nesseraly ones that are gonna mke guns worth 7mil





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sm1550
Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:28 pm
#206

hey, i didn't say I agreed with him, only that your question about sources for resources was not accurate. besides, imo, 30k resource deeds and self powered harvester kits are almost as bad as ADK's considering that my once considerable living made from selling power and resources as a master artisan is now non-existant because of this very attitude.

Maceey
Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:37 pm
#207






SkiMask wrote:


******Let me clarify this for everyone both who agree with me and especially the ones who dont*******


I say over priced because i know without doubt i can make better weapons virtually for free


I am weaponsmith and my main is a MRM/MBH, The items required to make these weapons (IE: Krayt Tissues, Power Cells, etc.) drop off mobsI solo easily. Most i have invested in it is time to hunt the mobs and about 200k or less a week on foods, whichhunt and buyanyway, and time to collect***FREE*** Resources. SoNo, I dont thinkyour time, free resources and free material are worth7 mil.

And im sure i know what your next response will be---


Im not a MRM/MBH you say??? I cant solo those things all day you say????? or i cant kill mobs who drop power cells????


not my problem


Im not paying out large amounts of cash because you have poor business sense.

as for Bio-linking ADK no i see nothing wrong with that idea at all, wouldnt do much for the priceing - maybe even make them more expensive than they are now, but would make it so once its used cant be resold.


Message Edited by SkiMask on 11-02-2005 08:03 AM




Reply for the red part.


As most people i don't think you see the bigger picture. Oke adk'ed weapons are bad enough. BUT people selling them and trading them for other items or weapons is the thing that will kill my beloved profession. You see right now it's still mostly weapons that aren't double-capped yet. But add a nice nerf to rifleman and the double capped laser rifles with a adk will be all over the forums because lots of players just play the fotm. Right now i still think it's rifles hence the rifleman nerf example. I allready saw people trading adk'ed weapons for other weapons on the forums be it with or without some extra payment. Now you see those double capped weapons won't ever leave. Sure some people say they rather destroy the weapon. But i don't think you would destroy a double capped laser that's worth 8mil so you can buy a new double capped one that's 0.05 faster.....



oh and i would prefer you bio-link the weapon and not the adk.

Message Edited by Maceey on 11-02-2005 08:39 PM




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SkiMask
Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:08 pm
#208



ROFL


no no no no again you mis understand....


Free resources is not referring to the self powering deeds but that was a good point as well


When i say free resources i am refering to what most crafters dont want you to know or rather realize


That is ....... since katrina..... no maintanence has been payed on any structure..... of any kind...... includeing what?????


Harvesters


and since harvesters are used to harvest power


that means free power


free power to run maintenance free harvesters


to harvest resources needed to make uber weapons


as for rare spawns you just have to wait


I have 2 farms and have for awhile


If you dont and you are a crafter trying to make a living and you buy resources.....


YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING


if you chose not to use an alt for BHing and instead by components for rediculous prices......


YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING


if you think that the customer should happily pay higher prices because you lack any business sense.........


YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING



And on a side note..... I have never payed that much money for a weapon and never will


I have the money i have and all the houses filled with all the junk i have becasue of one reason and one only


I (unlike alot of ppl) Take the initiative to go out and get what i need or want myself rather than by it


as for crafted goods I have always sought out the best deals and waited extensive periods of time until a better deal came along


You can call me names and curse my children but the fact is you hate me and ppl like me because we do for ourselves rather than feed you.



Message Edited by SkiMask on 11-02-2005 01:13 PM

Message Edited by SkiMask on 11-02-2005 01:29 PM



°¤öÖ::Echen Kraul::Öö¤°
-Stalker / Assassin-
---Low Crawling To a Jedi Near You---


- I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Your voice counts!
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