Weaponsmith Archive

When are they gonna be made any good?

are they any good???? they have crap stats

I am a master weaponsmith and I can tell you that they are crap. The only good thing is that they do stun damage. I've tried to get them up high on damage and low on speed as possible, they just don't come out well. Same as the striker pistol.

Yeah, they're crappy unless the person you're fighting has like 80+% resist to your dmg type, then they are *maybe* better. They can't be made that powerful because they A) Do Stun Dmg, and B) are in a lower weapon Tier.

I own some, not really worthwhile. You're better off with a good FWG5 or DX2.

yeah just wondering what the hell stun does???

ok what about the other pistols dl44 and stuff they any good?

or do we all just use dx2, scouts, and FWG5s????

imho, you should look at the SR Combat one also...

I highly recommend you to have at least :

- DX2
- FWG5
- Scout OR DH17 (I prefer DH17 because more consistant dmg)
- Striker (because of Kinetic dmg)
- Tangle (because of Stun dmg)

Yes I know, the 2 last ones are crap if you only consider AP and dmg / speed but the dmg type is surely as important as other stats here.

of course, add the SR Combat for its AP, didn't put it in the list because I started my post with this one. You can have a very good one with nice slice, its only drawback is the range limited to 48 meters.

apparently they are bugged or something..............nobody can make good ones..........even the smiths who can make uber everything else.............

Tangle is a great example of everything that is wrong with SWG.

For months FWGs and other pistols were insanely overpowered through their gaining power from 3 different components (plus enhancements). As we know they were all nerfed back to "proper" levels of damage.

Then we have the Tangle; only one of 2 weapons capable of delivering stun damage and thus negating most composite protection. It draws it's power from one lowly Adv. PFM. There is no barrel, no handler, nothing but 5 control units that add no stats (since they carry none). You make the weapon from copper (at least I do), cadoan and then probably platenite or polysteel, and hope for all great successes.

Now unless you used a feed enhancer (from Nym's) you ended up with a weapon that does approx 50-105 @ 3.4 (this is of course server dependant).

With feed enhancer, if you can find one(and of course good experiments in it's crafting also) you add 20 to the max. Hope for a damage slice and add some speed power ups and it will hit for 65-170 @ 2.3. (35% dmg slice and 33% spd PU).

This weapon needs some serious love and possibly a rethink on the schematic, maybe adding a projectile pistol barrel or making control units have some sort of negating effect on it.

/agrees with WerrZer

Personally I wish they'd ditch the control unit requirement. They add nothing to the weapon (and why 5?) but make it a royal pain to make since I'm not a master art. The dmg could use alittle boost. I think mine max at about 107.

I tried to search for a RECENT threat detailing advancements made on tangle pistols and I could not find any.

Can anyone from the WS community tell me what's the stats for top tangle pistols? I'm very interested in buying one right now and would like to know the absolute best stats. Thank you.

Should also note the Wound chance is usually a dismal 3.5% +- 0.2%

Ah ok, thanks everyone. If i can get a decent damage slice with a nice 33%MIN 16%MAX damage powerup, i think it won't do too shoddy pvp.