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Thread: So.. how much did the CU cost you?

P__Day
Sat May 28, 2005 8:51 pm
#1

I just started calculating this up the other day how many credits i lost from the cu and i was to say the least ... shocked.


Geo blaster schem : 1 million credits


3 x yellow DE10 barrels : 1.5 million credits


4 x 7 sets of yellow geo cubes : 800k credits


1 scythe schem : 1.2 million credits


1 full run of medium warhead mechanisms : 85000 units of resource x 2 cpu = 170k credits


1 full run of warhead fusing mechanisms : 18000 units of resource x 2 cpu = 36000 credits


1 full run of warhead stabalizing devices : 45000 units of resource x 2 cpu = 90000 credits


1 full run of imperial detonators (40 crates) : 103000 units of resource x 2 cpu : 206000 credits


22 krayt powerhandlers : 22 x 100000 = 2.2 million credits


after the cu


1 full run of adv blaster powerhandlers made right after the cu when you could still stack food and spice since the 0 sac on them wasnt low enough : 44000 units of resource at about 10 cpu : 440000 credits


1 full run of adv blaster rifle barrels : 93000 units of resource x 10 cpu : 930000 credits


bringing the total to *drumroll* 8.5 million credits roughly not counting thigs like weapons that got turned unsellable and that type of things.

How much did you lose?
CorenLanra
Sat May 28, 2005 9:51 pm
#2

Everyone has lost quite a bit, especially in the resource department with the new cap weight system. Add a 0 to what you lost or more and you'll probably get close to what I lost. If you dwell on it, you'll just get more angry, nobody is going to reimburse us, so why dwell on it?



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P__Day
Sat May 28, 2005 9:55 pm
#3






CorenLanra wrote:
Everyone has lost quite a bit, especially in the resource department with the new cap weight system. Add a 0 to what you lost or more and you'll probably get close to what I lost. If you dwell on it, you'll just get more angry, nobody is going to reimburse us, so why dwell on it?




not so much dwelling as me doing the montly or bi monthly books and looking into components and so on, if i were to count the rest of the geo cubes and unsellable weapons it would be alot more, i thought it was funny as hell, i tend to be tragicomic
Hurlobacca
Sat May 28, 2005 10:08 pm
#4



150 Krayt ABPH made worthless by conversion - 3 mil give or take

30 sets of yellow cubes 7 or more - 6 million

20 Acklay Bones - 2 million

Assorted small sets of yellow cubes, agents, green cubes (probably 300items- 3 mil

250 crit success AVBU's (35-56) - 20 million (based on what I paid for them as I bought them from a retiring smith)

12 Scythe Schems - 5 million

24 Geo Blaster schems - 7 mil

250 sliced weapons rendered worthless by conversion -7 mil


I'd say the whole thing cost me 65-70 million credits but I did loot quite a bit of stuff myself, esecially in the last month or two leading up to the CU so it's not all out of pocket but I did buy a lot of the stuff too. I do have to laugh at the irony of how loot drop rates were increased at geo lab (cubes, agents, and geo blaster schems dropping like crazy) and krayt as well shortly before the CU took place, only to find those items totally obsolete (all geo related loot, schems) or much less impactful than before.


Make no mistake about it, the fact that most weaponsmiths were left holding millions of credits of worthless loot and schems was no accident. Scythes, DE-10's, Geo Blasters, DXR6-B Rifles, Acklay boneswere all nerfed and replaced with quest reward items with higher dmg and lower AC than crafted weapons. Adding insult to injury is the fact that most of these quest rewards can be obtained in under 15 minutes, so they're really rewards for the player just showing up, which I guess given declining server populations is something SOE is thankful for.


We've seen an obvious move towards deemphasizing crafting and also making it so that everyone can have the "best" weapons if they are willing to buy the expansion and take about 15 minutes of their time. This was based on a misperception that crafters were responsible for the unaffordability of some items like scythes, de-10's, acklay hammersetc., when in reality the fault of those circumstances were entirely in the hands of the development team.






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giffordgekko
Sat May 28, 2005 11:47 pm
#5

i cannot even calculate to how much i lost like a lot of people - whats the point of this thread apart to piss me off ?
Abbell
Sun May 29, 2005 1:10 am
#6

it is all water under the bridge now... how much did I lose? Alot more than 8.5 mil. I had converted 150 gorax shards and around 200 converted tissues alone.. nothing I can do about it and no need to waste my energies trying to recoup.



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ShugFlurry
Sun May 29, 2005 3:56 am
#7

I lost friends, worse than nerfage of what I had in storage. Much worse.



Shug
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Summerflame
Sun May 29, 2005 5:16 am
#8






ShugFlurry wrote:
I lost friends, worse than nerfage of what I had in storage. Much worse.





QFE!


Also I started out doing calculations of what I lost and just stopped because it made me wanna quit.


Ive stopped Playing ROTW for the exact same reason. Havent been to wookieeworld since I found out all the weapons are quest rewards. It makes me to angry and I really dont want to waste my (atm sparse) ingame time being pissed off.


But if you want a rough number... well at least 80 mill in weapons alone 10 mills in tissues and about the same in geoloot. Then scythe schematics and DE-10 schematics would add at least another 10 mill. and then theres the rest like nym motors and resources that changed.


Its all in the past thou. If they fix the quest rewards + adk issue and bring back the friends Ive lost due to SOE not paying any attention to the playerbase then id gladly take another 100 mill hit.


When all comes down to it, its all about having fun ingame and sadly Im having less and less fun with the WSing. Ill stick it out thou as I truely hope and believe theyll fix it.


If not theyll have WoW light and in no way will they be able to compete in that area of the MMORPG scene. Also the new vehicles brought me a ray of light. Theyre craftable so they havent fully waved of the crafters which makes me believe a bit more in the future






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ShugFlurry
Sun May 29, 2005 5:39 am
#9

I'd gladly /tip all my cash if SOE would fix the game so that all my friends came back.



Shug
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Ferrek
Sun May 29, 2005 5:42 am
#10

Any credits I've "lost" because of the CU has been earned back tenfold from taking custom orders and selling weapons made with converted components. As for the resources - I have yet to have a single resource rendered useless because of the CU. The only difference is that my resources are now even better than they used to be.







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Willbaby
Sun May 29, 2005 9:09 am
#11

couldnt add it up, ive got at least 20+ of most schematic types (scythe ,geo blaster, de-10 ect) . a couple NSEL schems , to many sets of geo cubes and solids (all mostly sets of 7+) small bags full of yellow de-10 barrels , bigger bags of white ones , the list go's on .. its killing me not making anything but gorax or krayt enhanced weapons , god i used to love making ideal range geo hammers




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Melkurion
Sun May 29, 2005 2:43 pm
#12

Ok, probably my own fault for most of this but...


I am not in a guild. I spent an enormous amount of time collecting resources and what few loots I was either given in trade or bought with extra funds.


Now, it seems like the "uber" mentality has completely taken over. For example, I have mineral resources that are, for example, within a few percentage points of "perfect" for an item. However, I don't have Krayt to make the ABPH but I have very good materials to make what I thought were pretty decent examples. Now, I can't sell anything for even what it cost me. I spent 100K on Krayt, just base to make a couple of pistols that I finally had to drop to 10K each just to recoup something. I have been told that my stuff is "not up to par" and the person was right. I simply don't have the credits to use only special items to create my weapons but is that how it really should be? In my mind, the special weapons should only comprise 10-15% of those out there but it seems like they are instead the majority. How is a poor old Wookiee to compete? There aren't hardly any newbies coming in either so I don't have them to sell to either. At one point I respeced my character to a Doctor but my true love is crafting. Not for the money but for the enjoyment. However, I am crafting myself into the poorhouse right now.


Is it just me?


Vryce/Bria


PS Only a 10 point as I simply cannot afford the attachments and since I am not in a guild, no groups to go with to try and loot them,
VWBugKing
Sun May 29, 2005 4:00 pm
#13






Melkurion wrote:

Ok, probably my own fault for most of this but...


I am not in a guild. I spent an enormous amount of time collecting resources and what few loots I was either given in trade or bought with extra funds.


Now, it seems like the "uber" mentality has completely taken over. For example, I have mineral resources that are, for example, within a few percentage points of "perfect" for an item. However, I don't have Krayt to make the ABPH but I have very good materials to make what I thought were pretty decent examples. Now, I can't sell anything for even what it cost me. I spent 100K on Krayt, just base to make a couple of pistols that I finally had to drop to 10K each just to recoup something. I have been told that my stuff is "not up to par" and the person was right. I simply don't have the credits to use only special items to create my weapons but is that how it really should be? In my mind, the special weapons should only comprise 10-15% of those out there but it seems like they are instead the majority. How is a poor old Wookiee to compete? There aren't hardly any newbies coming in either so I don't have them to sell to either. At one point I respeced my character to a Doctor but my true love is crafting. Not for the money but for the enjoyment. However, I am crafting myself into the poorhouse right now.


Is it just me?


Vryce/Bria


PS Only a 10 point as I simply cannot afford the attachments and since I am not in a guild, no groups to go with to try and loot them,





Even though this is not the subject of the thread, I just wanted to post a response to this. I am a 10 point WS, and I do not belong to a guild either. The last couple of days (now that respec is over for a lot of people) has been really good for me. I don't have any resources that can make advanced components, except those for the FWG5 Pistol and the Czerka Dart Carbine. I have been making low end pistols and melee weapons basically since about day five after CU, and I have been doing decent. I sample most of the resources that spawn that I dont have, as I really don't want to waste a lot of credits into factories yet (at least until I get organized). I basically make Power Hammers, Czerka Dart Carbines, FWG5 Pistols, Scout Blasters, DLT20a Rifles, Tusken Rifles, Ryyk Blades, Cryo Lances, and some other lower level weapons. Since CU, I have been making enough sales to support my factory and my house for a good amount of time (along with my travel), and in the last several days I have been doing great. I think I have sold at least 25k a day for the last four days. For most people that would put them away into bankrupt, but if you are marketing to the right crowd, then you will survive. I make all of my sales on the Coronet Bazaar, I have some on my brother's vendor, but haven't made a sale there yet. I make sure that I am pricing in-line with the other WS's on my server, while trying to make some profit.


Personally, if I were you, I would check my prices, and I would make some lower level weapons and place them on the Coronet Bazaar to get your name out. As far as prices go, I know it changes server to server, but for me, I basically take the level of the weapon, and multiply it by 150 credits, then add the cost of the resources it took to make the items. It puts me pretty close to in-line with the prices for my server, probably a little bit lower, but like I said, I am only 10points, so I would expect my merchandise to be lower since it is not as good, and players seem to respect that.




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