Weaponsmith Archive

Well, I would have to say that although the loot/reward weapons since RotW have impacted sales isnt of question. However, if you deal in mostly high end loot enhanced weapions, I would think the true cause of you sales going down is the adk not the loot.

People who would be back to get another in a month or so just dont need to any more, if they got a really great one and slapped an adk on it. I know some people will say,"not everyone can afford an adk." This is of course true. The customer who was buying high end loot enhanceed weapons in the 1st place sure can though, and fiscally who can blame him. Why pay 2-5 million every month to replace a weapon over and over if you can buy it once and pay 7-10 million to adk it, thus never needing to buy it again.

Great point. I agree that must be a major contributing factor. My clients can ALL afford a couple of ADK's.......

Time to dust off my bioengineer skills again lol

Id say its a combination of the 2

Im able to compete with most of the ranged quest rewards (granted I need really high end tissues, which is very annoying), the melee part however I dont stand a chance.

I look at it this way.

Most rich ranged costumers comes to buy the really highend stuff then adk it never to return

Most poor ranged costumers just doesnt come as they can get better weapons than my basic weapons (which is financically in their reach) from ROTW quests

Most Melee costumers never comes as all the highend weaponry is only achievable throught ROTW quests

I still earn good credits, but to things concerns me.

1. I dont make as many sales a day as before, when I sell its usually highend weapons and while they might earn me more credits it worries me that at some point most people will possess adked weapons plummeting my sale drastically (unless of course the game continues to attract new players which I cross my fingers for)


2. I still stock melee weapons, but they just dont move from the vendor. Making the marked a bit more dull than before

Im not worried that I cant continue earning good credits as a merchant, Im just afraid that at some point it wont be my weapons that pulls in the dough and that would make me very sad indeed.

Only drop I have had in sales is my melee weapons. So much that I discontinumed them. My ranged weapons are booming. I make about 2-300k a day, sometimes more. More than some, less than others, but always a profit. Looted/quest weapons have not affected me a bit.

Worst example is the kin dam rifles.. tuskan and berzerker cap at 887 max LEVEL 40, and u need very good bone to cap it. best looted kin rifle (wookie exp. quest) does about 1030 -1055. Whats needed is that SOE make all/most quest weapons into weapon schems instead of the actuall weapon. We get to craft cool guns and looters still get their weapons. Just like with the SCYTHE quest. They make some creds we make some creds..I for one have seen a much lower demand in weapons after the wookie expansion.

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And all those new weapons and what did we get to craft?..practically nothing.. and that my fellow smiths was a big dissapointment to me. Nemis

Capping SAC is easy, with good enough tissues you can get very close to the dmg cap as well on the same weapon. As a 14pt Artisan I can craft good speed PUPs while experimenting the penalty stat down to almost 0% penalty. Hello Mr ADK. You won't be able to get a better weapon so why not ADK it??

Having said that, my ranged are still selling extremely well. I stock very few melee but craft them on request.

I am having just the opposite problem. With 4 factories running constantly,I am having trouble keeping weapons in stock. I've raised my prices and it didn't even put a dent in my sales. I haven't been logging much time in space recentlybecause I am constantly gathering resources, making schems and loading factories. It is not unusual for me to make 500K in one day from ranged weapons alone.

Melee weapons don't sell as well as ranged, but I do make about 100K per day on them. My theory is thatI am one of the few smiths who stock some of the melee weapons. The missing melee schematics do put a damper on sales, with some levels of melee weapons missing altogether.

My sales are roughly 500% what they were pre-CU. I've only recently become a 12 point smith, so most of my sales are of 10 point crafted weapons. I used to restock my vendors weekly, but lately I have had to restock at least three times a week.

I guess I am a victim of my own success. I make good quality weapons for a fair price. I just never thought I would end up making so many if them.

You need to test out new markets.. I recently did a few runs of High MAX Dmg (lower DPS) but SUPER LOW SAC weapons. Been selling laser rifles (82SAC) for 200k and elite carbines (73SAC) for 100k, I've sold nearly 50 of each of them over the past 2 weeks. That is some major cash.

I looted "Transdoshan Hunter's Rifle Barrel" compontents in 2 drops tonight. I'm going back to search for a schematic drop. This is a very powerful rifle. If it were craftable, as it is apparantly going tobe..(or is) that might make a significant difference.

Since I seem to be the first to find these components, i would love to be the first to put my hands on a schematic!

Arell Stormweaver

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stanleycat wrote:

Am I the only one who has seen sales fall through the floor?

I have for nearly 20mths now specialised in high-end weapons, using the best resources and the best loot enhancements i could find. My prices were keen (i checked regularly against other WS's).

Immediately post-CU, i made a load of the new weapons, they sold out pretty quickly. I no longer bother muchwith many of the old loot-type weapons (scythes, berserkers dxr6 rifles etc)

Since ROTW got going, and the ridiculous amounts of weapons which can be looted (and are as good as the equivalent we can make in many instances) - and more importantly are FREE, my sales have plummetted terribly.

I have once again checked my prices and revised them down to be among the best on the server in terms of price and quality - but the market just isnt there any more (apart from carbines and scatters).

Its ridiculous in my opinion, how the loot drops have totally nerfed our creativity.

Thoughts?

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I still see sells, not nearly as much in the first two to three weeks post CU. My main sells are my Scatters with +140 tissues FWG5s with +150 shards or I still sell a few Hammers here and there with either cubes/agents or bones.

You have to be somewhat innovative to compete with ROTWs weapons. I have been looking at some of the 1.5 to 3 million credit ROTW weapons and when you look at DPS they are awesome and SAC on most is great. If you know how to work the system and the customers focus on max hit on final assembly along with SAC. I still move pistols for 12.5k (scatter, fwg5, intimidatorand mod rep blaster) carbines and rifles anywhere from 15k to 100k (t21s, lasers, elites, e11s and a few e5s). Unenhanced we can't compete with ROTW stats but players that don't have ROTW still need weapons farely comparable for a fraction of their price.

my high end sales have actually gone up, but i have furthered taht by advertising these forums to players who are not on accounts here and running auctions. high end players are always looking for a better gun than what they currently have. you just have to keep in mind what the big money people have so you can contact them when you beat what they currently have. for instance, i crafted a weapon today that beats the 948dmg 81SAC scatter one guy bought. he now knows about the 948dmg, 65SAC scatters i will be auctioning and has his eyes glued to the screen just waiting to upgrade his pistol...

in the old system you didn't have to market as much. now, you have to constantly keepthe work out there about your stuff.

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Arell wrote:

((not a weaponsmith....))

But there was some info from SWG Stratics tonight that I'll quote:

"Brekkee - *Imaridirl* Are there any plans to ever add looted schematics for any of the more popular weapons, armor, and other items that were introduced with ROTW?
LEC_Neif - Yes, we have lots of lootable schematic items on ROTW as it is, and we will be adding more. We're watching out for the crafters, so watch for lots of cool items that are lootable schematics only. "

I looted "Transdoshan Hunter's Rifle Barrel" compontents in 2 drops tonight. I'm going back to search for a schematic drop. This is a very powerful rifle. If it were craftable, as it is apparantly going tobe..(or is) that might make a significant difference.

Since I seem to be the first to find these components, i would love to be the first to put my hands on a schematic!

Arell Stormweaver

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Where did you loot these. If there actually are looted weapon schematics it would be so awesome and my whole attitude towards ROTW and the DEV team would change in an instance