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Thread: Scopes, stocks, and barrels in the Combat Upgrade

SeaRaptor
Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:59 pm
#1

From comments made elsewhere, I obtained permission to share this info with you guys (since you'll be finding it out shortly anyway). Essentially, visible stocks and scopes on crafted weapons have been disabled entirely as a part of the next major publish, the Combat Upgrade. Helios details why this was done:






Helios_SOE wrote:


Unfortunately, as you know, the customized barrels/scopes had issues with other people seeing them as well as some issues with factory crafted weapons that had visual customization on them. In addition to those legacy issues, the crafting changes introduced in CU (aimed at ensuring balanced weapon crafting) caused more non-trivial breakage with the scope/barrel customization system. A decision was made to disable weapon customization for now - in favor ofcompleting a working & balanced weapon crafting system within the scope of CU.


It wasa hard decision because we all think that customized weapons definitely add some good flavor to weapons, but one that had to be made for the time being. Unfortunately, fixing customization the "right" way is out of the scope of CU so we'll have to look at it again afterwards. The flip side to this is that we now have some pretty good variety in weapons (new and old) which might make you want to use different weapons at different times, so perhaps we'll at least see people carrying a wider variety of weapons.



Now you know why, so there's no need to /bug this change when you see it. It is intentional, and we know why. =)





Felton Kel
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Seilyn_Nox
Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:27 pm
#2

Well..... crud.





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Seilyn_Nox
Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:42 pm
#3

Felton, any word on whether it will effect custom weapons built before the CU patch goes in?





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SeaRaptor
Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:45 pm
#4






Seilyn_Nox wrote:

Felton, any word on whether it will effect custom weapons built before the CU patch goes in?



I'm betting that it means custom scopes/stocks on all weapons -- new and existing -- will not show until they can get things sorted out. They'll still be there, of course, enhancing the weapons' stats. You just won't see them.


That's my guess, at any rate.




Felton Kel
Master Weaponsmith, FelKel LTD Weaponsmiths

Old weaponsmiths never die, they buy a planet and retire in luxury.
Now on MMORadio - Where Gamers ROCK!
Seilyn_Nox
Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:05 pm
#5

Oh well, that's what I figured. Really gonna miss customizing my weapons though - hopefully it becomes a priority fix down the road after things settle. *crosses fingers*


At least they let us know up front.





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Seilyn Nox
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ShugFlurry
Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:18 pm
#6

I wanna train WS!!



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Ragnaat
Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:18 pm
#7

What does this mean for all of the themepark rewards (form fitted stocks, projectie pistol barrels, etc. etc.) and other loot items?

And what about already crafted materials?



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Standardlager
Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:29 pm
#8






Ragnaat wrote:
What does this mean for all of the themepark rewards (form fitted stocks, projectie pistol barrels, etc. etc.) and other loot items?

And what about already crafted materials?





This just means you wont SEE them. Customized means as in you SEE the component. eg. the stock on a T21. As compared to the normal T21 that just looks like a MASSIVE handgun.



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Ragnaat
Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:33 pm
#9

apologies if that's the case... just read like there was more then just the visual issue.. that these parts were being removed to make thigns easier to balance



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Helios_SOE
Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:22 pm
#10






Ragnaat wrote:
apologies if that's the case... just read like there was more then just the visual issue.. that these parts were being removed to make thigns easier to balance





Scopes, stocks, barrels and the like are not being removed as components. Only the customized visual appearance that some of these components provided will be disabled for CU. This will also affect previously customized weapons/components.
dirlook
Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:26 pm
#11






Helios_SOE wrote:





Ragnaat wrote:
apologies if that's the case... just read like there was more then just the visual issue.. that these parts were being removed to make thigns easier to balance





Scopes, stocks, barrels and the like are not being removed as components. Only the customized visual appearance that some of these components provided will be disabled for CU. This will also affect previously customized weapons/components.






thank you for taking the time to post on this issue, and clearing up any misunderstanding....i'm personallynot too upset about this, but would like to see the visual aspect of hand crafted weapons re-enter the game at a later stage

Message Edited by dirlook on 04-01-2005 01:27 PM

Chavabegga
Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:33 pm
#12

That is annoying. I have an array of hand crafted weapons that look very cool hanging on my walls. Now they will all look the same. That sucks.



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Ragnaat
Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:42 pm
#13

Thx for the definitive word on that Helios



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