Weaponsmith Archive

Thread: Intrepid WS makes best gun in SWG, PROVE ME WRONG

Azvic
Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:57 am
#1

It has been confirmed by a few WS on Intrepid that the construction of this gun is legitimate and free from exploitation. The WS who created it will not tell us what he used, but he told a few other "big name" weaponsmiths on the server and they agree that the construction makes sense. So here it is, try to beat this:


FWG5 pistol, 192-730 dmg, 0.3 spd


The damage of a flamethrower or LLC in a marksman pistol. Reported to do over 6k damage with stopping shot in PvE. Created by Yaman on the Intrepid server.


Yaman also created an FWG5 with 0.0 speed.


There is a post regarding this gun on the general discussion board and pics may be going up there soon. Feel free to check the auction post on the front page of the Intrepid forum, where I am sure it will stay. I believe the current bid is 3 million.




Azvic Izost

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SeaRaptor
Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:12 am
#2

Screen shots to support your claim would be helpful. It is difficult to prove someone right or wrong when there is no evidence to support the original claim to begin with.



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Azvic
Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:20 am
#3

Since it is not my gun, I cannot produce a screenshot, sorry. I know it's different on the Intrepid board because the WS is well-known and everyone there knows he can't falsify stats if he wants any future business. If he post a pic I will put a link in this thread, but I guarantee you that it is real.


Forgot to add, the gun is sliced but is not equipped with a powerup. Max dmg before the slice, 566.




Azvic Izost

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FeeeeedMeeee
Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:36 pm
#4

I can not wait for my server to have guns of the quality of your server, We have extremely good armor, doctors, combat medics, and tailors, as well as traveling theater companies to provide mind healing wherever needed (it is nice to see people run around with 4000+ ham and getting fully healed mind and wound in less then 3 minutes is great) but as for guns the best FWG5 pistol I have personally seen on naritus has been a 1.3 speed 60-200, 22% wound chance, +34 at 20m gun.
Though back in the beginning we had a spawn of copper with all the stats above 950 quality for a while, I am sure that would make the weapons on your server even better.
SeaRaptor
Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:55 pm
#5

I think more than the gun, I'd rather see a screen shot of the +250 krayt tissue it would have taken to manufacture a gun with those stats pre-slice and pre-powerup.



Felton Kel
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LLJK_Griz
Wed Oct 29, 2003 2:02 pm
#6

Previous weapon changes (heavy weapons, T21) were not retroactive so it's a safe bet that this won't be either.



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NisraB
Wed Oct 29, 2003 2:03 pm
#7

My previous post should read 0.9 speed.



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Azvic
Wed Oct 29, 2003 2:06 pm
#8

I understand that it doesn't make sense, even the best weaponsmiths on my server where saying "how the hell did you do that"? He explained it to the best known weaponsmith on the server (someone who everyone trusts) and that weaponsmith posted that it was legitimate. I can understand people on other servers who think the gun is a fantasy, but Yaman is a respectable smith and has sold a lot of guns, he isn't going to throw away his business by making something like this up and trying to auction it.



Azvic Izost

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NisraB
Wed Oct 29, 2003 2:14 pm
#9

I believe the gun can exist in only 2 cases:


1. Some new uber loot component - all the weaponsmith in question has to do is list the components used. This will not give away any trade secrets so he wont be losing business over it.


2. An exploit.


I won'tassume an exploit until the weaponsmith in question responds to my post on the intrepid thread.





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LLJK_Griz
Wed Oct 29, 2003 2:16 pm
#10






Azvic wrote:
I understand that it doesn't make sense, even the best weaponsmiths on my server where saying "how the hell did you do that"? He explained it to the best known weaponsmith on the server (someone who everyone trusts) and that weaponsmith posted that it was legitimate. I can understand people on other servers who think the gun is a fantasy, but Yaman is a respectable smith and has sold a lot of guns, he isn't going to throw away his business by making something like this up and trying to auction it.





If he has to do some particular process to obtain those results, then it is clearly a bug/exploit. FWG5 stats would not go anywhere NEAR that even with materials with 1000 in every stat.


He's probably discovered the bug from that 9 page thread that was reported two months ago and still not fixed.




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Vorp
Wed Oct 29, 2003 2:18 pm
#11

566 before slice


-220 ( aproc damage of perfect fgw)


that laves us whit 346


lets say that he somehow got one +250 tissue wich would have drop rate of 1ppm of 1ppm (never heard of or seen +250 ones yet)


that still leaves us whit 96 damage that have to come from Proj feed


Anyone seen or heard anything about +96 Proj feed enchaters?



Sorry have a bit to hard to belive that this gun was made in 100% legit way.


I wont say that he used some bug to get it maybe it was just one of these weird one of life time source code glitches, who knows.


But iam sure to 99.999999% that there is no freaking way to make it




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Draconicius
Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:25 pm
#12

Not only that why is this smith so afraid to post his stuff? Is he afraid people are going to spend days camping to try and find it (Not like they dont already) ? If it WAS ultra rare drops then cool... we understand.


But simply posting with no means to back it up with a picture is kinda hard.The fact that he WONT come forward and simply tell you WHAT was used leads me to beleive he is shady in one aspect or another.


Again.. if it WAS drops that was used to create it then why is this "smith" so afraid? Its likely that the same caliber gun wont be around again.



This is effectively a /neener post that many will call this guy a 'sploiter simply because you (the poster , not the smith) cannot back up this claim.The main reason why is the discrepancy of the LOW END damage . I can understand Tissue making the MAX go up... and the HVFM making the MAX go up. The ONLY other way this is possible is if he found a looted pistol barrel that added +130 to the MINUMUM DAMAGE. Now that being said.. to cover your butt as well as the smiths... can you post an image of exactly what (component wise) was used. Many of the Mastersmiths agree that there is a threshold that the weapons can achieve ,due to resources, ... and yes this is FAR above that, but this is also the reason why many are discounting it..because it is TOO far above baseline. Ask around on any server and find out what the AVG min damage it is... you will find it rates around 60-67 minimum damage on and FWG base. The tissue/feeds ONLY affect max damage. So please explain how he upped the minumum damage please. You can simply post ' ITSA DROP ' then what kind of drop then this can be laid to rest.




Oh added note... if it WAS an uber barrel it would also explain the insanely high max damage due to the variables in damage of the min/max/speed.




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ReinoXReeno
Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:30 pm
#13

Try SWGcraft.com / current resources / then search by your galaxy / then scroll down the worlds list to all ...


and if it isnt listed.. go find it, write down the stats, then register on SWGcraft.com and post it.. then post all the new resources as they shift in, and remove all the resources listed as they shift out ... its a great tool for finding the resources... but only works if people use it ...




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