Weaponsmith Archive
Thread: Post CU DE-10?
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Voodez
Wed May 11, 2005 3:17 am
#1
I was thinking of having one of these made up, and was wondering if anyone has made a DE-10 since the CU? I know it got hit pretty hard in the changeover, but havent heard any stats for a post CU version...
On another note, ive just bought a few 94 -0.65 krayt tissues cheap, and imthinking ofhaving oneused ina DL44 XT, could anyone be so kind as to tell me roughly what DPS i should expect from these, assuming a good base XT is around 300dps on my server...
thanks very much for any assistence! 
Vade_WS
Wed May 11, 2005 7:23 am
#2
Voodez wrote:I was thinking of having one of these made up, and was wondering if anyone has made a DE-10 since the CU? I know it got hit pretty hard in the changeover, but havent heard any stats for a post CU version...On another note, ive just bought a few 94 -0.65 krayt tissues cheap, and im thinking of having one used in a DL44 XT, could anyone be so kind as to tell me roughly what DPS i should expect from these, assuming a good base XT is around 300dps on my server...thanks very much for any assistence!
I think most WS aren't playing around with DE-10s since it would be a waste to experiment on them right now.
As for the DL44 XT, the change to dps isn't as straight forward as you might think. For a non-elemental weapon, like the DL44 XT, quoting 300dps isn't enough. You need to know the min and max damage as well as the speed.
Here's the formula: newDPS = (min + max + tissueDam)/(2 * (speed - (0.1 * tissueS)))
So, if your favorite WS was making 300dps DL44 XTs with min=300, max=900, and speed=2s, then then you get:
newDPS = ( 300 + 900 + 94 )/( 2 * ( 2 - ( 0.1 * 0.65 )))
newDPS = 1294 / ( 2 * 1.935 )
newDPS = 334.37
Jaspor
Wed May 11, 2005 7:32 am
#3
Heh, I've been looking for this too...
There must be some rich, daring, and creative weaponsmith out there somewhere who's willing to take a chance on a post-CU DE-10, no? 
I mean, it is still level 54 cert, so it should be on about the same level as the DL44 XT and FWG5 and DX2, right?
I'm thinking (hoping) that a post-CU DE-10 with some halfway decent Krayt tissue can probably get into the 900s for max damage and around 300 base DPS.
Lusion
Wed May 11, 2005 7:52 am
#4
I had one made post CU by a 12 point smith. Using 75 dmg tissues and a white barrel, the APBH stats were:
Min: 21
Max: 122
Attack Speed: -1.6775796
Attack Cost: 5
and the DE-10 Stats were:
Dmg: 346-825
Accuracy Bonus: 10
Wound: 23%
Est Base DPS 270.69
Special Attack Cost: 116
Theos_Robos
Wed May 11, 2005 8:06 am
#5
As a 12 point WS I also just made one with 145 -.4139 tissues and white barrel. Stats are :
2.07 AS
348-897 dmg
17 accuracy
23 wound
300.17 base DPS
0-35 range
113 SAC
Jaspor
Wed May 11, 2005 8:09 am
#6
Thanks for sharing. 
Not great, but not totally awful...
Anybody else?
Rathagor
Wed May 11, 2005 11:07 am
#7
I've made one DE-10 since CU i don't remember all the stats but here is what i remember they should be close.
Speed: 2.1 or 2.2
Max Damage: 735
Base DPS: 260-270
Accuracy: 10
Cost: 122
This was made with all Post-CU components and and only 10 expirementation points. No enhancements. Yellow barrel
Still waiting on some good Tissue to make another with the schem i got.
Voodez
Wed May 11, 2005 5:15 pm
#8
Many Thanks to all who posted - its good to see that some DE=10's have been made post CU! The drop in stats in comparsion with the XT etc must be down to the specialist materials the DE-10 takes - im guessing thats why its down on dps agains it...
Also thanks for pointing out the dps i should expect from those tissues - im happy with 330 ish - cheers!
grifta
Wed May 11, 2005 5:47 pm
#9
DE-10 w/ Yellow barrel and 187 damage tissues came out with DPS of 345, a High Cap Scatter with same tissues and similar experimentation came out to 366 dps.
CorenLanra
Wed May 11, 2005 6:17 pm
#10
grifta wrote:DE-10 w/ Yellow barrel and 187 damage tissues came out with DPS of 345, a High Cap Scatter with same tissues and similar experimentation came out to 366 dps.
Soo, HC Scatter x 3 > DE-10 x1. However lets say you paid about 1mil for the yellow barrel/schem. I don't see any reason to make a DE-10 anymore. Guess I need to try a DE-10 & DL44-XT and compare those since they are both lvl54-nocert.
Voodez
Wed May 11, 2005 7:17 pm
#11
i was asking for a yellow barrel on my trade forum, and someone pointed out the after the CU the barrels drop in stacks like krayt tissue, and that no krayt tissue is yellow regardless of stats now.. their point was that its quite possible yellow barrels wont exist anymore either now. I think they need to give the barrels some viewable stats to make the DE-10 viable again really, enough to get it upto the 360 dps+ range as so its worth collecting the various parts.
Message Edited by Voodez on 05-12-2005 03:19 AM
ElvisTheKing
Wed May 11, 2005 7:33 pm
#12
Wow! Those SAC costs are huge! Not sure I'd use one of those for too long.
Jaspor
Thu May 12, 2005 9:23 am
#13
grifta wrote:
DE-10 w/ Yellow barrel and 187 damage tissues came out with DPS of 345, a High Cap Scatter with same tissues and similar experimentation came out to 366 dps.
Not bad, not bad at all!
Whatcha gonna do with that one, hrmm? 
Wanna sell it?
Wanna sell it?
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