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I am a TKM & love this profession as it does fantastic against everything except Fencers in melee battles .

How do you beat someone that has such nice defenses like the Master fencers do ?

They can't be knocked down & war cry doesn't seem that effective either .

Thanks for any advice offered

Capt. Thalon Starfire

TKM & Proud Rebel

Nauritus server

STARSIDER ORAS HAUKES / RAUL HAUKES INFINITY AVAV / AUHAL

Ummm,join,or well,RUN lol.

Yeah you cant really KD a fencer because of their insane defenses vs. KD(assuming they stack heh),and you will miss alot ifthey are using CoB.So uhh run,unless they dont have armor, then go for a low pool,or get someone to help you.

From my experience,the only way to beat em is to not try and "solo" them,get help,or try and score a DOT with another profession,because the DOTs go through CoB(not like a DOT can miss heh)

Eosa Eelo: NOOB EXTRAORDINARE!!!

As a fencer myself I'll have to say, it's not that hard.

Get some 39% stun armor and we wont scratch you

- Kojiro Sasaki - Baztid Extraordinaire

simple. I posted on how to beat them awhile back.

1.intimidate

2. unarmed stun

at this point you can either spam kd2 to knock them down, or dizzy then posture change. or do w/e bc their defenses and dodge is now.... zilch.

"I wish I could be the one,
the one who won't care at all
But being the one on the stand,
I know the way to go, no one's guiding me.
When time soaked with blood turns its back,
I know it's hard to fall.
Confined in me was your heart
I know it's hurting you, but it's killing me."

only fool fencers use the stun baton .... G baton all the way bitiznatch!

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Im a pilot ! ! ! !

rite only fool use a stun baton. here i use this one

stun baton

spd 2.5

dmg

255-235 that rite a higher min dmg then the max

mods

-9/-9/-9

ham

14/39/42

Master Fencer Defense Vs. Stun: +0

The trick is getting the Intimidate to stick (MF DvIntimidate = +20). But once you do, you're gold. Spam Stun til it sticks then keep them debuffed with the various debuff attacks while you work over their mind stat. Most fencers go for a stun baton or gaffi stick, but these are higher mind stat weapons, and will eat up their mind pool with specials (unless you've run into someone who has both a dancer AND a musician buff + mega food and drinks).

Keep that intiimidate and stun ON them. That is your key.

yah, all true...

but if you use knock down, and have a good speed, wat r they gona do about that!

Either your KD will be ineffective (Master Fencer D vs KD = +50), will miss (Master Fencer Melee Defense + COB = +220), or they will get back up afterwards(Master Fencer D vs Dizzy = +40). Sure, you can try to KD them, but sticking the intimidate and stuns should be your highest priority, so that these defenses don't kick in as well. Also, intimidate isn't a to-hit roll, something Fencers are adept at avoiding.

Remember, in a fight vs a Fencer, you also have a little bit of time. They don't have any direct mind-hits (Scatter Hit is the best they've got), and they do less damage per-hit than you do. They will probably try to blind you and dizzy you first off, and then go for a lunge. Also, many fencers stack Master Brawler into their template, so watch for the ranged KD. If it happens, bide your time, stand up slowly, and then apply your debuffs. More often than not it'll be a pretty even fight, but if you just remember to use your debuffs (Intimidate and Stun most of all) you have a better chance against an experienced fencer.