Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: Why enemy wakes up after dizzy/kd?
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Valtazar
Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:44 am
#1
I'm TKM for some time now, but i still can npt figure out why ppl get up after KD?
What is the exact situation and what states should be applyed to th enemy to ake him eat the ground for sometime?
I understand that ppl get up when they are not dizzy, but why the hell they get up if they are dizzy+stun+blind and i successfully apply lunge 2 or KD2 to them?
What's the point?
Should i firtsly apply dizzy or knock them down first and then apply dizzy?
thx
BloodMonk
Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:47 am
#2
are you spamming lunge/KD moves?
if you land one and do another your target will just get back up
Sly
if you land one and do another your target will just get back up
Sly
Valtazar
Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:54 am
#3
Well i got macro
/intimidate2
/stun
/dizzy
/KD2
usually enemy does not fall from first time but dizzy state is applyed to him( sometimes even stun with dizzy 
)
)after i use Kd2 or lunge2 - if enemy is kiting. So my question is how can enemy get up if he is under dizzy and i knock him down?
It was surprize for me to see how it happens but i can say that my enemies get up after dizzy in 3 cases of 5......
Am i bugged? or i do smth wrong?
It's realy my major problem in PvP...
SLK
Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:15 am
#4
I think dizzy stacks, I have more chance of getting a "fished" enemy if I do 4-7 dizzy attacks before I apply the dizzy KD
Yushi
Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:24 am
#5
i only find it hard to actualy get them on the groun. when they are on the ground with dizzy applied i just spam the attack im using with some dizzy between it
Joth_Kyles
Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:56 am
#6
My Dizzy KD usually works just fine. The bad guy will stay down for a few seconds allowing me to kick the crap out of him while he's down. He'll make a few failed attempts to get back up and then finally succeed on the 4th or 5th try. Dizzy isn't supposed to stop someone from standing, just make it harder.
McFlyGuy
Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:30 am
#7
It use to be that NPC's use to just stay on the ground after a sucessful kd + dizzy. They changed the AI so they actually attempt to stand up again now.. Tuskens use to lay on the ground for minutes without recovery.. Even if they weren't dizzy anymore.
Atama
Wed Aug 18, 2004 1:52 pm
#8
Dizzy doesn't guarantee that a person falls when making a posture change. It only makes it so that there's a chance it will work.
I think combat equilibrium might help with dizzy, not sure.
I think combat equilibrium might help with dizzy, not sure.
Volatile_VS
Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:14 pm
#9
What happens is if someone is dizzy and they try to stand there is a chance for them to fall down... What I have been told is that the higher def vs dizzy and the higher combat equilibrium the person has who is dizzy are the lower the percent will be for them to fall back down.... the reason people used to stay down longer back in the day was that they used to spam stand... the problem with this is that even if you are standing and hit stand again, it will do the roll vs dizzy and they can fall right back down... now that people have learned to press stand and wait to see if it fails, it is alot harder to keep them down...
Atama
Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:17 pm
#10
I'm pretty sure that defense vs dizzy, like all of the "vs" defenses, only prevents the state from being landed on you. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's how all of them work.
I know that combat equilibrium gives you a chance to instantly recover from a posture change (for example, you instantly stand back up if you're knocked down) but I'm not sure if that "instant recovery" avoids the dizzy state. Like, if you're dizzy, do you stand up and then fall right back down? That would be kinda useless.
Good questions for our revered correspondent maybe...
I know that combat equilibrium gives you a chance to instantly recover from a posture change (for example, you instantly stand back up if you're knocked down) but I'm not sure if that "instant recovery" avoids the dizzy state. Like, if you're dizzy, do you stand up and then fall right back down? That would be kinda useless.
Good questions for our revered correspondent maybe...
mixmastermonkey
Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:42 pm
#11
BloodMonk wrote:
are you spamming lunge/KD moves?
if you land one and do another your target will just get back up
Sly
this is why... ihope its a bug, but if you kd a guy, and he actually gets knocked down, he'll get back up if you do another kd attack. Even if he is dizzy'd
or is it dizzied? eh 
Villain23
Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:46 pm
#12
its all about their dizzy defense. mines 70ish and i just hop back up. but if its less they fall on the ground over and over. oh and ps, tk dizzy sucks. fencer dizzy always keeps um down. tk never does for me. im both
JEAUX_ZUF
Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:52 pm
#13
ill post here, yay!
from what i've seen, combat equilibrium helps you get up from a posture change
dizzy+lunge dosent gaurnetee that they will flop around, they may fall down when they try to get up, but if they have CE they may get up automaticially
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