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Thread: TKA vs Pikeman

vicrey
Tue Jul 08, 2003 11:54 pm
#1

Technically, a TKA would smoke a Pikeman, right?


Im heading towards pikeman right now. But I've always been a fan of the monk class. From what I hear it sounds fitting to me, but I donno... I love the damage I do with my polearms.


Any thoughts? Could use some info.


Atama
Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:09 am
#2

No no no... Actually in some ways you might be better than a trando. I have to be very careful about special moves, because it seems that all unarmed moves suck up action pool points like a sponge. Trandos are very weak on quickness and stamina. Twi'leks however are very good with those stats, so you'd be able to pull off alot more special moves than a trandoshan ever could. Bothans have that advantage as well.

Really, the only species I'd hesitate using would be Mon Cal, because they seem to be mentally-oriented and the mind pool just doesn't seem all that important to a TKA.



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PietroSlice
Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:27 am
#3

hes correct., if I (Twi'lek unarmed brawler) want to, I can just jam on my F7 key and do nothing but unarmedhit1 with no real penalty. I'm also under the impression twi'leks have some minor healing bonuses.



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SpockRoyalTea
Wed Jul 09, 2003 12:09 pm
#4

ive actually had a long standing rivalry (for the week the game has been out) with a member of the opposing faction who is a pikeman (me being TKA) and we are pretty much same skill and i havent lost once after 20 or so duels. maybe he just sux. tka rock!
vicrey
Wed Jul 09, 2003 12:15 pm
#5

Well from what im receiving, TKA do rock.


Perhaps ill dump polearms and head up the path of TKA. Im a Twi'lek though.. is this bad? Probably should have been a Trand if I wanted to be good?

nateantares
Mon Dec 08, 2003 2:39 am
#6






SITHMASTER020 wrote:
NO IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT THIS GAME TRYS TO BE AS CLOSE TO REAL LIFE AS POSSOBLE AND A TKA VS AN PIKEMAN BOTH EQUAL IN THE RESPECTED PROFESSIONS A TKA WOULDNT BE ABLE TO GET CLOSE ENOUGH TO A PM THE POLE ARM IS AS TALL OR TALLER THAN THE USER THE WHOLE POINT OF A PM TO KEEP HIS ENEMY AT BAY 2 HITS WOULD AND SHOULD KILL A TKA NOW PROVIDED THAT YOU DO GET CLOSE ENOUGH TO HIT A PM THEN YES YOU DO AS MUCH DAMAGE BUT IN REAL LIFE I USED POLEARMS IN MARTAL ARTS AND YOU HAVE TO BE DAMM GOOD TO EVEN GET CLOSE TO A PM ANYWAYS BOTH PROFESSION ARE GOOD TO HAVE BUT PM IS BETTER IF THE PROGRAMERS DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND THINK OF THE PHYSICS INVOLVED IN IT




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Itanius
Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:08 am
#7

Quite the Necro Post, Mister Caps Lock.





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Signore
Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:27 am
#8

At least the blind peeps can read it..



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Trung
Mon Dec 08, 2003 4:02 am
#9

Ya know that guy is right. When im power boosting in real life and hit with red streamers behind my hands i really have trouble with those pikemen. I punched a rancor to death today but my mom said i had to come in for dinner. Unfortunately my mom was really a pikeman and she kicked my ass because in real life poles always beat fists.



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gaud
Mon Dec 08, 2003 6:03 am
#10

This is SWG, not real life. Where in RL do you see giant carpets walking around? Anyways I dueled a master heavy swordsman and a master pikewoman couple of times (friends of mine) without using dizzy + Kd. I just slapped on COB and went on hitting their weakest HAM, mind for one and action for the other. Was power boosted too. In a knock down drag out fight that gives us the edge. But yes a TKM should currently win against pikes because their profession is broken while ours is working the way it should be unless the devs get some funny ideas (which they always do :robotmad



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antares_Kauri
Mon Dec 08, 2003 8:27 am
#11

Even though this is a very old post, I'll make a comment because it's still a valid question.

A pikeman's only real chances against a TKA are (a) to get warcry off first or (b) hope we resist the KD and can land ours. We're much to slow in attacking to get in our hits first and even with the small accuracy bonuses we got last patch, it's still possible to miss, which against a TKA essentially means defeat. So basically, if we can't get warcry to land first, there isn't much of a chance left unless we resist the TKA's KD and land ours, in which case it should be over quickly. Although, oftentimes we miss the KD'ed opponent or the damage just isn't high enough due to your super toughness.

Also, our CoB works, but our major defense, block (shows up as +counterattack+ in our logs, +block+ in others'), still allows damage (somewhat reduced) unlike dodge and counterattack. So, we have the lowest toughness and 2nd lowest melee/ranged defenses (thanks to last patch), and yet they give us the one defense that allows damage through. Yay. Heh, and if we're caught without sunburns, well...CoB and 3 specials and we'll have no HAM left for you to hit.

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corsarioboricua
Mon Dec 08, 2003 8:42 am
#12

As a practitioner of martial arts, I just wanted to say that there are many techniques for an unarmed brawler to stop an armed opponent. In fact many martial arts concentrate on this.. Yes its hard to fight someone using a woden staff but definately not imposible.


Someone with the proper trainning can quickly dispose of an armed combatant.


The way to balance this game is to give all clases some type of advantage at different ranges and combination of skills. For example a PM should be able to hold at bay a Tka at around 10-15 feet. if it does not accomplish the task of stoping the tka and the tka closses the gap then the advantage goes to the tka. A staff is not very efective at close combat (can be efective but not as effective at unarmed combat.


This should really not be a problem: after all PM are not as fast and accurate as tka. And if the tka waits for the right oportunity as to when he can close the gap, (using lunge) then he should be able to beat a PM. Of course PM are broken and really dont stand a chance against TKA (at least havent heard of any winning a duel yet). That is wrong. Someone with the proper trainning in ranged melee weapons should be a very deadly oponent.


Well just rambling now, and not being able to explain clearly the thoughts I have concernning the subject, so Ill just stop for now.


ShadeElf
Mon Dec 08, 2003 8:46 am
#13

Well just to quickly comment on the person that made the speak about Pikeman in CAPS. You say that a Unarmed cant get close to a Pikeman becasue the Pike is longer then 2 people, but you must understand that then the pike will make the person using it alot slower and so the Unarmed can get through it and attack and once they are in the pikeman wont be able to defend himself and probably will drop his weapon, but that only if you look at it in the perspectic of reallife.

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