Teras Kasi Archive

We have no area-effect state attacks (every other elite melee profession does).

We have no bleeds (again, only elite melee without them).

We have the worst evasion skills of any elite melee profession (we don't get real dodge/counterattack/block, we get defense acuity which doesn't work as well).

Note that AP1 isn't great but it's better than fencers, who have AP0 for their best weapons.

Our weaknesses balance our strengths.

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Atama wrote:
We have no area-effect state attacks (every other elite melee profession does).

We have no bleeds (again, only elite melee without them).

We have the worst evasion skills of any elite melee profession (we don't get real dodge/counterattack/block, we get defense acuity which doesn't work as well).

Note that AP1 isn't great but it's better than fencers, who have AP0 for their best weapons.

Our weaknesses balance our strengths.

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We have a random bleed in Unarmed Hit 3, but aside from that, everything you said was correct.

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Atama wrote:
We have no area-effect state attacks (every other elite melee profession does).

We have no bleeds (again, only elite melee without them).

We have the worst evasion skills of any elite melee profession (we don't get real dodge/counterattack/block, we get defense acuity which doesn't work as well).

Note that AP1 isn't great but it's better than fencers, who have AP0 for their best weapons.

Our weaknesses balance our strengths.

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i think defense acuity is great actually.. that and our toughness.. tka and swords are the biggest jedi killers in my eyes and maybe its because im both, but spamming unarmhit3 really jacks up a jedi... aside from placing blind on them it deals out great damage and our tougness and acuity really nulls alot of the damage they deal.

i think out only weakness is out vulnerablility to ranged fighters..that and only one type of damage , but thats changing... 2 proffessions i will never drop.. swordsman and tka. ownage.

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"We have a random bleed in Unarmed Hit 3"

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Something that does 1 point of damage per tick is not a bleed, especially when it's completely random and most likely a bug instead of an intentional part of the special.

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"i think defense acuity is great actually."

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How can something weak be great? There is nothing good about defense acuity. It can't stack with any other profession because no other profession has it, and no tapes exist for it, so everyone is capped at a certain point. It doesn't activate nearly as much as dodge, counterattack, or block at the same level. In other words, a TKA with +96 defense acuity (the highest you can have) will be hit more often than, say, a fencer with +96 dodge. Defense acuity is inferior, there's really no other way around it.

I'm not saying that TKA is terrible. TKA is a great profession, my favorite in fact. But this thread is asking what the weaknesses are and I explained them (at least the ones not previously mentioned). The developers did a pretty good job of balancing us and making up for our strengths (like toughness, meditation, variety of state attacks, excellent knockdown and dizzy attacks, etc.) with corresponding weaknesses. It's part of why this profession is so great, we're strong but not TOO strong.

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Tajiri-the-warrior wrote:

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Atama wrote:
We have no area-effect state attacks (every other elite melee profession does).

We have no bleeds (again, only elite melee without them).

We have the worst evasion skills of any elite melee profession (we don't get real dodge/counterattack/block, we get defense acuity which doesn't work as well).

Note that AP1 isn't great but it's better than fencers, who have AP0 for their best weapons.

Our weaknesses balance our strengths.

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i think defense acuity is great actually.. that and our toughness.. tka and swords are the biggest jedi killers in my eyes and maybe its because im both, but spamming unarmhit3 really jacks up a jedi... aside from placing blind on them it deals out great damage and our tougness and acuity really nulls alot of the damage they deal.

i think out only weakness is out vulnerablility to ranged fighters..that and only one type of damage , but thats changing... 2 proffessions i will never drop.. swordsman and tka. ownage.

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Atama you spot on Tarjiri you wrong there im afriad Acuity has never worked propaply , swordman added to tkm is a great combo thought agree there , id add to or weakness the fact of or dizzy , most tkm get Dizzy and we cant get up , it a pain , but i can live with that , failing that i still find tkm To be very balanced profession , against a kitting ranged profession ( Rifleman ) tkm is kinda screw but if there is houses then they have to look for you , i tend not to chase in the open as you die , lunge 2 is cool with tkm , but Atama said it all really

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comandobob wrote:

Atama you spot on Tarjiri you wrong there im afriad Acuity has never worked propaply

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Actually that is incorrect. If you look in the Info Thread stickied above Defensive Acuity has always worked, it was just never "improved" as Dodge, Block, and Counterattack were.

I wouldn't really list ranged defenses as a weakness particular to TKA. TKA has less RD than fencer, sure, but much more than the other melee professions.

antares

Rifleman is the only concrete weakness I've found in PvP as a TKM. Realistically, we're vulnerable to any ranged player that can kite well enough if we don't have ranged mitigation as part of our template.

TKM is the main part of my fifth or sixth template that I've done, and I really am tempted to say its the proffession I've had the most fun with in both PvE and PvP, outside of pre-weapon switch timer Bounty Hunter... Mmmm... Sprayshot... Anyway...

Great for PvE of all grades if you know the typical actions of the NPCs you are fighting. The only real gripe I have about TKM in PvE is that it typically hits hardest in the Combat log, but does the lowest amount of damage on the screen in most cases.

only one dmg type is our biggest weakness

PvE wise especially





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Message Edited by CrashNemesisII on 06-19-2004 11:43 AM

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Atama wrote:
We have no area-effect state attacks (every other elite melee profession does).

We have no bleeds (again, only elite melee without them).

We have the worst evasion skills of any elite melee profession (we don't get real dodge/counterattack/block, we get defense acuity which doesn't work as well).

Note that AP1 isn't great but it's better than fencers, who have AP0 for their best weapons.

Our weaknesses balance our strengths.

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'scuse me, but my best Fencer weapon is AP1 and is better than a VK! O.o

\You have an AP1 fencer weapon that does over 450 max damage? What the heck is it? ??

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Atama wrote:
\You have an AP1 fencer weapon that does over 450 max damage? What the heck is it? ??

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A vibroblade made with nym vibro motors and a 35% damage slice, he showed it on the fencer fourms a while ago