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Thread: Teräs Käsi Focus: Jedi, Should We Have A Role...
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Ryutek
Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:31 pm
#1
I want to know exactly what you think our role for/against/not involving Jedi should be. There have been many threads mentioning this issue, with discussion as to why we should and why we should not "hunt/check" the Jedi Population. Keep the discussion constructive and civil or I will have to have the moderators step in.
I welcome any input from both Teräs Käsi and Jedi, as it affects both professions quite profoundly. I also welcome input from Bounty Hunters, as currently this is their role.
My personal opinion is that Bounty Hunters need some attention, and they be left to hunt the Jedi. Imperials should also be able to attack Rebel and Neutral Jedi, Rebels should be able to attack Imperial and Neutral Jedi, and Neutral Jedi should be able to attack Imperial and Rebel Jedi. Note that this does also cause concern with "unconcensual PvP," and could be avoided by leaving it to Imperial and Rebel (dark and light) Jedi. Now, that being said, I do not necessarily oppose the idea of the Teräs Käsi helping to keep the Jedi in check. Irregardless, my opinion does not matter if the vast majority of you, whom I represent, deem it an issue you want me to pursue.
Again, keep the discussion constructive and civil.
Aation
Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:38 pm
#2
I believe that Teras Kasi needs no further involvement with Jedi... Tracking skills are for Rangers and Jedi Bounties are for those who risk the skill points to get Investigation III. To me, Teras Kasi is the most fixed melee profession and it's popularity reflects this. It's accuracy is affective v. a jedi and the fact that we TKs can only do kinetic dmg doesn't affect us when fighting a jedi. defencesv. melee andrangedare great, the only thing that needs work is our defense acuity.
Grimror
Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:43 pm
#3
I personally don't beleive we need a niche role in jedi wars. And quite honestly, I think we need to wait for CB to come about before we even get a list together about what we need/don't need because CB will have a great impact on that. Anything we do now is premature and focused on a combat system that with luck is going to change drastically as soon as CB comes to the forfront. So to answer your question, I don;t think we need any special treatment in the way of jedi interaction, at least not now...
ZabrakGabe
Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:44 pm
#4
teras kasi should have some role controlling/policeing the jedi, as we were ment to(with most of the information about teras kasi pointing to this distinct role)
Trucho-G
Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:02 pm
#5
/agree tka should police jedi
/disagree IMPS SHOULD BE ABLE TO ATTACK DARK JEDI, there is not reason why imps shouldnt be able to.Rebels also should be able to attack light jedi as well. No neutral jedi should exist it makes no sense.
superchunk00769
Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:34 pm
#6
yes, besdies the sith we are the jedi only true enemy, and really dont think that with the speed and agility that we have, we could do it in a full set of composite armor. Just like with jedi, they cant use force power in armor, so TK should not be able to execute attacks while in armor and should be given a robe/uniform at novice and at master. Hope this helps, just my two cents.
MagicalHAt
Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:45 pm
#7
Id love to see BH's shift from jedi hunters to player hunters and Teras kasi to get jedi hunting.
LordMaxx
Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:48 pm
#8
Id have to say no. I dont think we need to be jedi hunters in any way. Id rather see work towards a Teras kasi order then work towards teras kasi jedi hunting. But that is far in the future lets just get fixes first.
lets just get fixes first.
ZabrakGabe
Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:23 pm
#9
teras kasi order thats an interesting idea, kinda like the jedi enclaves then? where we'd have ranks and had 2 duel each other to advance, and then get special bonus's with each rank.
Atama
Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:45 pm
#10
I don't think we should have any special role against Jedi.
Not because continuity doesn't support it. We have a lot of wiggle room in this game and the developers are willing to bend continuity to support better gameplay. So I don't object just because official sources don't have Teras Kasi fighting Jedi.
I don't think we should, because I think Teras Kasi is better than that. Why should our role be defined by what some other group does? We should have our own distinction in this game. I like the idea of Teras Kasi being about getting in tune with our own personal abilities, in naturalism, in relying on ourselves rather than technology. Think of how special that is in an environment where technology is both so advanced and so prevalent.
I support having some kind of Teras Kasi Order in the game, the way that bounty hunters have the Bounty Hunter Guild or the way that Jedi have their Council and their temples. Maybe quests we can do once we reach master that grant us special clothes that give us bonuses so we don't have to rely on armor.
But this game isn't just about Jedi, and not everything in the game has to revolve around them.
Not because continuity doesn't support it. We have a lot of wiggle room in this game and the developers are willing to bend continuity to support better gameplay. So I don't object just because official sources don't have Teras Kasi fighting Jedi.
I don't think we should, because I think Teras Kasi is better than that. Why should our role be defined by what some other group does? We should have our own distinction in this game. I like the idea of Teras Kasi being about getting in tune with our own personal abilities, in naturalism, in relying on ourselves rather than technology. Think of how special that is in an environment where technology is both so advanced and so prevalent.
I support having some kind of Teras Kasi Order in the game, the way that bounty hunters have the Bounty Hunter Guild or the way that Jedi have their Council and their temples. Maybe quests we can do once we reach master that grant us special clothes that give us bonuses so we don't have to rely on armor.
But this game isn't just about Jedi, and not everything in the game has to revolve around them.
Duedroth
Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:13 pm
#11
Ryutek wrote:Teräs Käsi Focus: Jedi, Should We Have A Role...
I want to know exactly what you think our role for/against/not involving Jedi should be. There have been many threads mentioning this issue, with discussion as to why we should and why we should not "hunt/check" the Jedi Population. Keep the discussion constructive and civil or I will have to have the moderators step in.
I welcome any input from both Teräs Käsi and Jedi, as it affects both professions quite profoundly. I also welcome input from Bounty Hunters, as currently this is their role.
My personal opinion is that Bounty Hunters need some attention, and they be left to hunt the Jedi. Imperials should also be able to attack Rebel and Neutral Jedi, Rebels should be able to attack Imperial and Neutral Jedi, and Neutral Jedi should be able to attack Imperial and Rebel Jedi. Note that this does also cause concern with "unconcensual PvP," and could be avoided by leaving it to Imperial and Rebel (dark and light) Jedi. Now, that being said, I do not necessarily oppose the idea of the Teräs Käsi helping to keep the Jedi in check. Irregardless, my opinion does not matter if the vast majority of you, whom I represent, deem it an issue you want me to pursue.
Again, keep the discussion constructive and civil.
I didn't read the other posts, but here's my opinion on the matter:
BHs should hunt players who aren't Jedi, such as smugglers and other ppl who build reputations. Reputations could be easily gotten through factional work or basically how you respond to NPCs in general. I know this is a vast concept and won't be put in place, but it's a nice thought.
Teras Kasi should be able to have their own sort of enclave, and through a similar reputation system pick up a "bounty" on the Jedi. They would have a terminal, not unlike BH terminals but there's only ONE terminal, in the enclave. It wouldn't be called a bounty obviously, but who knows. Again, this'll never happen, but it's a nice thought.
In order to reach the level where the profession would deserve an enclave to itself, and the sole ability to hunt down and correct the error of the Jedi, Teras Kasi would have to be a harder Master to obtain. Perhaps you'd have to master brawler, then take an Unarmed profession (where TK is currently), and then on top of that train for TK. That way, these masters of inner energy would be able to wield different weapons, but they'd still primarily use their fists and VKs.
I think that all Jedi should be able to attack other Jedi of different faction. This forces Neutrals to choose a side, or become very unified and strong. Also, it is my opinion that you are giving your consent to the continual threat of surprise PvP once you unlock your Force Sensitivity. The term "unconsentual PvP" should not apply to Jedi whatsoever.
Also, "irregardless" isn't a word, it would mean the same thing as "regardless", which is the correct form.
EDIT: an amendment: I think BHs should still be able to pick up Jedi missions on their terminals, for ANY Jedi. TK's would only get "missions" for Jedi who have been misbehaving in some way. In this form, Teras Kasi would almost have to be a different Faction altogether, but I'm sure there's a way around it. Anyway, the BHs can pick up missions for any Jedi, but they should know that they don't have nearly as much a chance against the Jedi as a TK would.
Message Edited by Duedroth on 08-18-2004 02:19 AM
Tanks
Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:30 pm
#12
My personal opinion is that Bounty Hunters need some attention, and they be left to hunt the Jedi.
Agree.
Imperials should also be able to attack Rebel and Neutral Jedi, Rebels should be able to attack Imperial and Neutral Jedi, and Neutral Jedi should be able to attack Imperial and Rebel Jedi.
Disagree. Anyone wanting to hunt Jedi regardless of the faction can level up in Investigation 3.
As far as TK having a role is concerned. I have played a TKM/Rifleman for a long time and when finally the droids got fixed and Publish 9 got released, I dropped Rifleman and picked up BH on my other char. Any TKM that wishes to hunt Jedi can pick up BH as well (for now ).
).Edit: After Combat Revamp TKM might not be the best choice for Jedi hunting anyway.
Message Edited by Tanks on 08-17-2004 11:36 PM
Loty
Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:34 pm
#13
if you give the ability to hunt jedi to TKA, then there is absoultly no reason what so ever to become a BH, and it will pretty much tank that entire profession. It will then be a choiceof becoming a Defense stacking tka hunter or a gimp Ranged BH. Simple choice.
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