Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: you ever think that TKA's are TO good?
to clarify the name... this isnt a cry for a nurf... this as a cry for all the other melee classes to become better!
i have messed around in every type of melee.... i was a master brawler for a lil while... and its simple to say that TKA are the best by far... but if you dont think you are TO good compared to the other melee classes your kidding your self... im not just some newb who is flaming cuz im jelous... i was thinking about become a TKA but i thought it was to easy.
i have done some studys and testing... TKA's can outdamage EVERY melee class, and they can target all 3 pools...you can do more mind damage then a swordsman,you can do more health damage then a fencer, andyou can do more action damage then a pole arm'er.
these where controlled and up tests... Master Vs. Master. and these tests have been done with multiple weapons on each side... same result every time. TKA won every time... with and without bleed attacks.
you have all the best parts of each combat class with more!
Swordsman: can target mind pool and do lots of damage -- TKA: can also target mind pool and can outdamage the swordsman... and there special attacks cost MUCH less!
fencer: high defence, can target heath pool,the ability to stun, dizzy, blind, and lunge! -- TKA: have almost as high defence, can also target health pool, they can also stun, dizzy, blind, and lunge!
polearm: Med defence, Med damage, can target action pool, can Knock Down -- TKA: higher defence, higher damage, can also target action pool, and can also knock down!
its not that TKA's are to good... its that they are to good compared to the other melee classes... as of right now there is no point in become any other melee class. TKA's can do everything any other class can but bleed... but you do so much damage you dont need to!
now you all know this... i have hurd many of you say it your self... your way to good! this isnt a cry for a nurf... i think you all are right at the level all melee's should be at... the other melee classes need to be made worth getting... right now TKA's outnumber the other 3 melee classes put together at least 4 to 1.
they need to make it so that TKA is the all around, jack of all trades, melee class... then the other 3 specilize in there own thing.
Swordsman should be able to do the most damage out of the classes.
Fencers should be able to have the best defence and defence moves... and those self defence buffs they devs where talking about
pikeman should be able sweep alot more then they can right now... have longer range... and have more special attacks (non damage based attacks with special effects)
i know you all know im right... but most TKA's dont want to sayso because they are afraid the devs might get some sence and fix somthing.
im just saying what all you people are afraid to!
This is sony we speak of. THey will nerf TKA before upping other classes, and if you think this is powerful... *points at nearest commando* one hit ranged incap on me in a pvp match once. havent been overt since.
As a matter of fact NO I dont think TKA are to good nor even good enough.
First of if youw ant to compare professions TKA are nowhere near as good as most ranged professions.
Second thing is that just because other melee professions are so much underpowered it does not make TKA to good in any way what so ever. Yes other melee is even more underpowered then TKA.
So not to stretch this post you aproached this topic totally wrong by saying TKA are to good as they are not. If you wanted to say other melee needs to be more up there with TKA but by saying TKA is to good you are screeming nerf and even your post sound like a nerf TKA. Why not make a constructive post asking for more power to other melee instead of saying TKA has all this and is to good?
actually i'm not afraid to say anything about the profession because i was glad they fixed KD (to an extent). playing an FOTM does not appeal to me, so i'm glad that most of the people that liked to spam KD left when that patch came in. playing a brawler in PvP takes a lot of patience. you can't spam eye shot from 64 meters out, nor can you rely on a pet to do most of your damage.
let me ask you a question. how exactly are you coming up with statements like these:
"Swordsman should be able to do the most damage out of the classes.
Fencers should be able to have the best defence and defence moves... and those self defence buffs they devs where talking about
pikeman should be able sweep alot more then they can right now... have longer range... and have more special attacks (non damage based attacks with special effects"
where in the manual, or any game guide, does it tell you that swordsmen should do more damage then all the other brawler classes? if anything it should be a pikeman, since their weapon of choice is insanely slow. why should a fencer have the best defensive mods and styles?
"they need to make it so that TKA is the all around, jack of all trades, melee class... then the other 3 specilize in there own thing."
this is the way i understood it. being a master brawler required you to master: unarmed, one-handed sword, two-handed sword and pike. so that would mean, that a master brawler would be the jack of all trades. if you chose to specialize in one, then you would further your training in whichever profession you chose. isn't that the way it works now? TKA is specializing in unarmed fighting, just like a fencer specializes in one-handed sword.
"i know you all know im right... but most TKA's dont want to say so because they are afraid the devs might get some sence and fix somthing."
other then baiting people into a flame fest, i see no need for you to post something like that statement.
GaAAHHhh this is bugging the crap out of me..... It's "TOO good" not "to good"
Sorry it's a pet peave.
wow... you people must rely hate to read whats in the post... i said that they are to good compared to all the other melee professions and that the should not be nurfed...and the others need to be fixed... i said that in there....
READ IT NEXT TIME!!!
IMO... TKA could do that you said, but I think is the hardest class to reach... I made 3 chars in Wanderhome, all brawlers, and all reached TKA novice (well, the third is on his way)... i raised all brawler branches with one or another, and unarmed is the hardest... The continuous upgrades of weapons make it easy.
My proposal: yes, give the armed brawlers a bit more power, but do giving them new sets of weapons. Let the cool moves for the TKA, we need to see us cool!
My english is so bad, I wish you had understood it.
I agree, TKA's aren't to good (pk's Dzhokar :smileywink
, It's just that other melee professions are broken worse than ours.
Yeah, perhaps TKAs are more effective than the other melee classes right now, but have a look at the ranged classes in terms of power before you go calling any brawling class too powerful.
It sounds like all you are considering is PvP. I havn't yet seen it but I have been told that in PvE the other classes easily out weigh TKA in damage and equal in speed due to good weapons. An example is one of my friends was out hunting with a high level pikeman and said that he saw combat spam in excess of 10k per shot. If this is true then maybe that is a way of balancing. I'm thinking that both PvP and PvE need to be considered when determining what is broken and what is not. Were the tests also done swords man vs fencer, swordsman vs pikeman, pikeman vs fencer. How did these test out.