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Thread: Katarn Sliced[+NightBlade] Quick Guide

Martimus
Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:11 pm
#1


I see a lot of posts about slicking Knuckles Of Katarn. Since this is arguably our best weapon, I made a quick guide regarding this:
I posted links so you could see what mod dps is like for (MTK/MDOC/SW 0.0.3.1):


Katarn Unsliced.
Speed: 2
Dmg: 358-715
Base Dps: 328/s

Unsliced

1. Katarn Sliced (4% Dmg, 4% Speed)
Speed: 1.92
Dmg: 372-743
Base Dps: 352.6 /s

Cheep slice - This is a decent slice if you have no slicing components. I had my first katarn sliced like this.

BalancedSlice


2. Katarn Dmg Sliced (8% Dmg, 3% Critical, 2% Speed)
Speed: 1.96
Dmg: 386-772
Base Dps: 356.63 /s

Most popular slice - You will need to get an illegal core booster or this slice will cost you a bit. (300k - 1Mil on my server). This is as good as it gets when it comes to maxing out dmg. Criticals do not work yet...but hopefully they will soon.

DmgSlice

--- THIS IS CONSIDERED TO BE THE BEST SLICE BY MOST PEOPLE ---



3. Katarn Speed Sliced: (12% Speed)
Speed: 1.76
Dmg: 358-715
Base Dps: 372 /s

This slice gives you the most DPS, so if you plan to hit something with no specials for a while this is great. With a doctor speed buff I hit like a madman with this. (very little delay on specials, but you can run out of action fast). You will need delicate trigger assembly for this slice. (100k -300k on my server)


SpeedSlice


[NEW] Thought I would add NightBlade to this...since I just got it sliced.


Nacrosis NightBlade Unsliced
Unarmed Damage Mod: 10
Unarmed Speed: 10
Speed: 2.06
Dmg: 375-750
Base Dps: 272.82 /s

4. Nacrosis NightBlade - DMG Slice (8% Dmg, 3% Critical, 2% Speed)
Unarmed Damage Mod: 10
Unarmed Speed: 10
Speed: 2.02
Dmg: 403-807
Base Dps: 299.68 /s

DmgSliceNightBlade



I did some quick testing on killing around 60 lvl 82 creatures (bolls). I only had a limited amount of time so I wanted to see how fast I could take them out with combination of my best attacks (MTK/MDOC/SW 0.0.3.1), without worrying too much about the numbers.

Slice #2 performed the best, followed by #3 (very close), and #1. The fastest kill time was with #2 (at 9Secs), but avg was very close (around 14s) with #2 being slightly better on action.

For me conclusion was:
- Use Dmg Slice most of the time. (easier on action)
- Use Speed Slice when I want to have fun... (or have good action pup/food)
- Use first slice if you can not get components, or on the budget.

Hope this helps

* Edited this post to make it more clear and readable.

Message Edited by Martimus on 08-18-2005 08:49 AM

Message Edited by Martimus on 08-18-2005 10:39 PM



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UbifaA
Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:33 pm
#2

thanks for that...i just scored an ICB and wasnt sure how to use it..your guide just showed me the light
Iawo
Sun Aug 07, 2005 4:44 am
#3




nevermind, I was wrong, did a full damage slice on another Nightblade and didn't hit any caps.


Message Edited by Iawo on 08-18-200511:42 PM

Message Edited by Iawo on 08-18-2005 11:42 PM



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Martimus
Sun Aug 07, 2005 1:51 pm
#4

I thought that I read somewhere on Smuggler or Weaponsmith forum that you can not hit a cap on any of the Kash looted weapons with slices... Would be very curious to find out. I may have a Nightblade coming my way, and would like to find the best way to slice it...

Message Edited by Martimus on 08-07-2005 04:52 PM



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WNxSaKeN
Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:11 pm
#5

Get the dmg slice and slap a speed pup on it... good for pve.. my katarns are at like 780 mod dps



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Iawo
Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:44 pm
#6






Martimus wrote:
I thought that I read somewhere on Smuggler or Weaponsmith forum that you can not hit a cap on any of the Kash looted weapons with slices... Would be very curious to find out. I may have a Nightblade coming my way, and would like to find the best way to slice it...

Message Edited by Martimus on 08-07-2005 04:52 PM




It's thought that it's impossible to hit the caps on quest weapons since they are all identical. Looted weapons are a different matter because there is still some variation in different weapons.



Iawo Eatevai
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I thought the NGE couldn't be any worse than the CU, but I was wrong.

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Iawo
Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:49 pm
#7

BTW, this Necrosis Nightblade I sliced for a customerwas at high 700's mod DPS for me, and in the 900's mod DPS with a powerup. I have extra speed from smuggler too, so that mad things even higher for me. He even asked me to arm it just for kicks. I really didn't want to give it back... If and when I get enough credits saved up for on myself, I'll probably speed slice it and drop damage pups on it.



Iawo Eatevai
Zabrak Rebel Smuggler
Crimson Phoenix Ace

I thought the NGE couldn't be any worse than the CU, but I was wrong.

PlanetSide names: Reeb - Emerald TR, Reebx - Emerald NC
Martimus
Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:57 pm
#8

Yup, I meant to write "quest" and not "loot" ..and I have heard that as well... I still wanted to double check before slicing nightblade, as I would not want to run into a cap after slicing it 2x for dmg. I would most likely do a full speed slice in that case.



"If it aint broken, fix it until it is! (nge)"

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Ranger, BioEnginer, Swordsman, Fencer, Pikeman, Brawler, Riflemen,
Pistoleer, Carbineer, Scout. Skill, true Jedi, working economy, crafter
and entertainers that matter, professional interdependence. People,
inovation, originality, and fun....

Iawo
Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:02 pm
#9

Well, I'll admit I was a bit sleepy at the time, but I could have swore the second damage slice didn't change anything. So if you get one close to 787.5 max damage, I'd suggest going for speed instead.



Iawo Eatevai
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I thought the NGE couldn't be any worse than the CU, but I was wrong.

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DoctorDan
Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:19 pm
#10

so.. what would be the ideal weapon ? katarn? or necrosis nightblade?
Iawo
Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:35 pm
#11


From what I've seen, Katarn is faster, but most Necrosis Nightblades have higher Max damage. Personally I'm going to attempt to get a NN, as I like to do more damage per attack to cut down on my action costs. I also have extra speed from Smuggler, so I need more damage then I do speed.


Oh, update on the Necrosis Nightblade max damage.... I saw one last night with a max damage of 788 with a 4% damage slice, so obviously 787.5 isn't the cap.


Message Edited by Iawo on 08-08-2005 06:41 PM



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Bunklung
Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:06 pm
#12


For the record, go with the 3 damage/1 speed/1 critical slice and get a speed pup. I hit 875 DPS on my Katarn's. On my other set I took a level 4 speed slice and added a damage pup and only get about 600dps. Check this out:


http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2346/katarn8wt.jpg


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Bunklung
Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:11 pm
#13

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