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Thread: Katarn Sliced[+NightBlade] Quick Guide

Bunklung
Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:13 pm
#14
No Clicky for me or edit, fun.



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Ocidry
Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:59 pm
#15
Clicky for Bunklung
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Think that worked, nice knucklers btw.

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Bunklung
Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:32 am
#16

If you're considering the Nightblade, it's a little off topic. It would make a nice thread, but as far as the Katarns, (and to set people strait and not waiste their money like I did on speed slice) go for Damage slice ALWAYS. Unless someone knows how to dramatically increase damage beyond an already damage PUP'd speed sliced Katarns, you'll never see 800+ DPS. It's a waiste of money. I don't think anyaddition character abilities or food is going to put you into that terrortory. So...


Speed Slice + Damage pup= 600 DPS (600k credit slice and Katarns wasted)


Damage Slice + Speed pup= 875 DPS


We aren't playing golf so higher is better here folks






Iawo wrote:

I wouldn't saycase closed, because not everybody has the same skills as you do. For instance, I'm TKM / M Smuggler / Swords 0040. I have mad speed mods from TKM and smuggler, so getting anything under 1.8 or so speed is a waste to me. IMO, speed just means you run out of action faster. Thatnightblade I sliced for another guy said somewhere around 790 dps for me, and that was without a powerup. My mod DPS was higher than his, and he said it hit 900+ dps for him with a PUP.


So needless to say, I'm still not convinced that the Katarn is the cream of the crop for TKM weapons. Even if I had a Katarn, I'd probably go for all damage +2 crit just in case they ever fix criticals. They look plenty fast for me stock.










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Ocidry
Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:49 am
#17
I'd probably go for all damage +2 crit just in case they ever fix criticals. They look plenty fast for me stock.



Crit Shot/strike test

I presume it works the same way for meele

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jseph
Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:03 am
#18
Thank you very much for this! Should be added up above imho.



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Martimus
Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:04 pm
#19
Good points about the effects of PUPs. I didn't want to use them to keep it simple.I will pick up some maxed out pups next few days and post results. I didn't think that there would be that much of a difference between speed and dmg pup. I dot usually pay too much attention to dps but clearly on a default attack dmg slice with a speed pup looks much better. I am also curious how sac reducing PUP would effect things.



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Bunklung
Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:52 pm
#20

Pardon me while I take my foot out of my mouth. I took my speed sliced Katarns and added a speed pup to it. If you're taking DPS, this is king. 914 DPS w/ 34.86% speed -28 accuracy pup:





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Iawo
Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:32 pm
#21




Bunklung wrote:

Pardon me while I take my foot out of my mouth. I took my speed sliced Katarns and added a speed pup to it. If you're taking DPS, this is king. 914 DPS w/ 34.86% speed -28 accuracy pup:


914 DPS






That'd be great if you like doing superfast auto attacks and don't mind wasting your action in three seconds from specials. I still think DPS is a "fluff" stat. I'm more intrested in DPSAC. You also realize that you are hurting your own damage by adding a PUP that subtracts accuracy, right?





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Martimus
Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:20 am
#22
/bump for nightblade.



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kapm
Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:06 am
#23
wouldn't the katarn's have higher dmg b/c of the extra 120 elemental dmg?(also, elemental dmg is figured into DPS)


katarn 772+120= 892


nightblade 807


also the katarn's would have a higher min 386+120= 506 vs 403



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Iawo
Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:59 am
#24


Dunno, a nightblade with a damage PUP would be doing some seriously nasty damage per hit. It will also gain more damage with a damage PUP than the Katarn since it does more damage. I'm trying to buy one if I can ever reach the guy I've been e-mailing. I know I sliced one for another guy last week, and the stats were pretty nice.With a PUP, that'sover 900 damage per hit.


Another thing we haven't been considering... how does armor resists figure into this? Will you do more damage by hitting a little slower with more damage, or faster with less damage? Also, it was reported by JFreemanin the smuggler forum that the critical hits not doing extra damage without a critical skill is a bug, and *should* be fixed next publish.


Well I did some more figuring, I use powerups that add about 20% more damage... so with those a nightblade would be about 960ish max, but the katarn would still have it beat when you add in the cold damage. This still isn't figuring in armor resists though, or even criticals when they get working. Either way, they are both pretty good weapons, and the only two worth using at TKM.

Message Edited by Iawo on 08-12-2005 06:22 AM



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booje
Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:06 pm
#25
wow thats awsome those things are uber




yea if anybody on the eclipse server knows where i can get me one of them then mail me in the game or mail this guy




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the new cu doesnt sound too bad i read the release notes and have friends playing it in test
Wewa
Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:23 pm
#26

I have been testing this too long, can you guys with 881 DPS and 917 DPS post please your Skill Unarmed damage, Unarmed Accuracy and Unarmed speed. I am just curious how good stats you have to do such damage.




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