Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: (NEW IDEA) FIGHTING STYLES!!
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SuddnDeath
Sat Mar 26, 2005 3:59 pm
#1
While I do love that we are getting new weapons, it kinda defeats the purpose of calling us TKM (steel hands). I think once you reach tkm you can go into about 5 different fighting types ( karate, ti-kwon-doh, boxing etc.) sorry i dont know all the names lol or how they are spelled so forgive me. These would be kinda like specialty profs. Some fighting types would be more offense while others more defense.
This would add great depth to tkm, and would make it so we arent all a bunch of clones like we are now.
Once you got to tkm you could learn novice boxer or ti-kwon-doh initiate. Once you hit the master title you could wear the title ti-kwon-doh blackbelt. These specialty profs would cost half as much spas an elite but take twice as much xp to get each box.
Atama
Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:28 pm
#2
Question: How do you think the rest of the game will feel when all of a sudden TKMs get their own combat system?
For fairness and balance, something similar would have to be done for every profession, and that is so great of an undertaking it would probably take a second CU. Maybe in SWG 2 you'll see that.
For fairness and balance, something similar would have to be done for every profession, and that is so great of an undertaking it would probably take a second CU. Maybe in SWG 2 you'll see that.
RunemonIV
Sun Mar 27, 2005 6:30 pm
#3
its not a new idea... infact many many people have had the very same idea.. from different animations to different damage types thru meditation..
its not gonna happen.. As it stands the ranged profession will have a distinct advantage in this game again and they should. Now that being said.. it doesnt mean that a melee guy who has used cover to close on the enemy shouldnt be able to beeeeetch slap the hell out of said gunner
masterlugi
Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:57 pm
#4
Question: How do you think the rest of the game will feel when all of a sudden TKMs get their own combat system?
For fairness and balance, something similar would have to be done for every profession, and that is so great of an undertaking it would probably take a second CU. Maybe in SWG 2 you'll see that.
For fairness and balance, something similar would have to be done for every profession, and that is so great of an undertaking it would probably take a second CU. Maybe in SWG 2 you'll see that.
swg 2???? we are just impriving the first one
Kriechers
Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:52 am
#5
I understand what you're trying to say. Although Teras Kasi is supposed to be its own style of martial art, just as Tae Kwon Do is it's own style. What you mean is 'stances' not 'styles'. It's not a new idea, it's been used many times over in roleplaying games as well as online MUDs for Monk-style professions. I dislike the idea of putting something like this into the game becuase not only does it complicate the already simplistic design (which is a big draw for me, having played Anarchy Online in which every single effect in the game either raises or lowers a stat) as well as being unfair to the other professions. How would the players feel if TKA got a whole new combat system while the rest just sat there and watched. I like how you think, I just oppose the idea.
TravonLepen
Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:58 am
#6
SuddnDeath wrote:
While I do love that we are getting new weapons, it kinda defeats the purpose of calling us TKM (steel hands). I think once you reach tkm you can go into about 5 different fighting types ( karate, ti-kwon-doh, boxing etc.) sorry i dont know all the names lol or how they are spelled so forgive me. These would be kinda like specialty profs. Some fighting types would be more offense while others more defense.
This would add great depth to tkm, and would make it so we arent all a bunch of clones like we are now.
Once you got to tkm you could learn novice boxer or ti-kwon-doh initiate. Once you hit the master title you could wear the title ti-kwon-doh blackbelt. These specialty profs would cost half as much spas an elite but take twice as much xp to get each box.
it is Tae Kwon Do
no flaming meant, but I think it dishonors the art to misspell the name.
/bow
JIJA
Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:37 am
#7
I will dishonour TKD all the time its turned into a very shallow weak sport, nothing like the orginal system it has become watered down and karates aproach with kata is all wrong its training you in a false sense of security by avoiding acual combat as it is, Now Freestyle, Gracie Jujitsu,Muay thai,shootfightng,judo,sambo and wrestling are the worlds most effective arts its been proved through many MMA matches(mixed martial arts) do I want to see any of these in star wars? no I agree there could be more arts based around the starwars fictionbut I never ever want to be incapped by a tkd or karate blackbelt even in a fictional world I couldnt live with the shame!!! If I wanted to fly round the room beliving that wing chun will work in a open space I would play the matrix.
best regards
Jija
(plz dont add RL martial arts it would ruin my game feelings and real life feelings being a martial artist)
TravonLepen
Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:05 am
#8
JIJA wrote:
I will dishonour TKD all the time its turned into a very shallow weak sport, nothing like the orginal system it has become watered down and karates aproach with kata is all wrong its training you in a false sense of security by avoiding acual combat as it is, Now Freestyle, Gracie Jujitsu,Muay thai,shootfightng,judo,sambo and wrestling are the worlds most effective arts its been proved through many MMA matches(mixed martial arts) do I want to see any of these in star wars? no I agree there could be more arts based around the starwars fictionbut I never ever want to be incapped by a tkd or karate blackbelt even in a fictional world I couldnt live with the shame!!! If I wanted to fly round the room beliving that wing chun will work in a open space I would play the matrix.
best regards
Jija
(plz dont add RL martial arts it would ruin my game feelings and real life feelings being a martial artist)
interesting "theories" but just cause you don't agree doesn't justify deliberately misspelling the proper name.
MMA is not an art at all, it's a fighting style. It's cobblestoned techniques from other arts around the world and guess what? It is also designed for tournament usage (not necessarily for street defense either). I agree that many (not all) Tae Kwon Do schools teach the martial sport of TKD, one designed to win trophies and tournaments, not protect yourself in real life situations.
Conversly, there are plenty of schools everywhere that do teach the martial art of Tae Kwon Do. The original version that tends to include joint locks, throws, pain compliance techniques, weapons, and ground fighting.
Katas exist for a reason, they are designed as a method to passtechniques onto future generations, to preserve history if you will.I agree that itseems to be the sole focus at some schools, but that doesn't give the students the sufficient platform for self defense.
If you want to check out a cool thread, do a search hereon the forums for my name and a post entitled "Name your martial art." There you'll find a lot of your fellow players have a lot of experience in a multitude of martial arts from all over the world.
JIJA
Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:27 am
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hey man I just hate arts to be missreprestated myself but why should I give a art instant respect when it limits so much?(btw org TKD is a great style)I always take a jeet kune do freestyle prespective on things taking away only what is effective,I belive MMA is a great platform and gives you enough freedom to show your basic fighting skills of striking and grappling and in a way it is a martial art just it has another name Vale Tudo,If you were to ask me though boxing and wrestling are arts the oldest of western unarmed fighting styles.
In a way I feel im turning into my own version of anikin im only 17 and my abillitys occasionaly make me arrogant 
JIJA
Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:47 am
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also if you want to be effective on the street look up a dvd named bas ruttens leathal streetfighting from a former MMA champion and dutch kickboxer, I dont have a problem with TKD being served up in a sport but why is it light contact with all thoose funny looking helmets and pads,if its on a sport form it should engage in the reality which is actual fighting such arts that do this is Muay Thai (traditional use of knees elbows and used to be headbutts) Judo(full contact on mats)GJJ or BJJ(same as judo)Boxing, wrestling the list goes on and on,then you have stilized forms which shouldnt be taken as completely usefull for self defence like wing chun (designed by a woman for close combat unarmed fighting on boats)Kendo(unless you walk down the street with a sword) I have learned some of these arts more for fun not for defence.
JIJA
Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:19 pm
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I have fought in many tournaments and many fighters for many years,sparring with some protection is ok (gloves and shipads for example)but whats the point of body armour and helmets? mainly helmets just cut off my vision and that means I cant see it to block or pary so some protection can do you alot worse than good,body armour I dont see the point of it if your in a correct defensive position the body is one of the least likely to be hit.
ive been involved with martial arts since I was 4 so I have nearly 13 years of experience in general martial arts I have won many regional judo championships and have fought many fights,I dont need to walk round with my chest puffed out cause im confident anything happens I could end the situation in a second.
ive fought many blackbelts from many disciplinesushally with size diffrence not in my favor I would have even been fighting my first MMA match 1 week ago if I didnt have to pull out cause of sickness,everyone around me is well aware of what I am capable off in a streetfight,I train at least five hours a day in weights running swiming alot of cardio and bag work.
and stop generalizing like you know me "oh some 17 year old punk thinks hes good at martial arts" If you are ever in brighton in england im sure I could take time out of my training to show you why im such a good martial artist(which is mainly cause I train so damn hard and work for it).
TravonLepen
Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:10 pm
#12
I'm not calling you "some punk kid." All I said was that you're 17, and that explains a lot to me because no matter how much of life you've lived, you have only experienced a small portion. I'm only 27, I'VE only experiencesd a small portion as well.
Lol,I started training when i was 8 years old, I'm 27 now.
My point is that eventuallyyou'll learn that you have nothing to prove to anyone as there is usually no real reason to fight.
Ever.
TravonLepen
Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:38 am
#13
JIJA wrote:
hey man I just hate arts to be missreprestated myself but why should I give a art instant respect when it limits so much?(btw org TKD is a great style)I always take a jeet kune do freestyle prespective on things taking away only what is effective,I belive MMA is a great platform and gives you enough freedom to show your basic fighting skills of striking and grappling and in a way it is a martial art just it has another name Vale Tudo,If you were to ask me though boxing and wrestling are arts the oldest of western unarmed fighting styles.
In a way I feel im turning into my own version of anikin im only 17 and my abillitys occasionaly make me arrogant
Again, no disrespect, but the fact that you're 17 and arrogant enough to think you're some type of powerful fighter says a lot about you. Don't worry, a LOT ot kids that age walk around with their chest poked out for no other reason than to appeal to their own ego (you're a lot greater in your mind than in the real world)
There is something to be found useful in all arts, that was the point Bruce Lee was trying to make as well. Every art contains "fluff," some just contains more than others.
Not wearing protective gear for sparring does not make a person more macho, a better warrior, or whatever romanticized image you may have of people who don't. It is worn very simply because kicks and punches were designed to cause injury to an opponent anyone NOT using them is silly imo.
Boxing and wrestling are the oldest martial arts, predating the emergence of kung-fu as we know it by quite a few years.
Again, I mean no harm, but if you think you're like a fictional character such as Anakin Skywalker, I say to you there's a great big world out there. Once you experience more of it, you'll start to see things differently.
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