Teras Kasi Archive

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JIJA wrote:

I will dishonour TKD all the time its turned into a very shallow weak sport, nothing like the orginal system it has become watered down and karates aproach with kata is all wrong its training you in a false sense of security by avoiding acual combat as it is, Now Freestyle, Gracie Jujitsu,Muay thai,shootfightng,judo,sambo and wrestling are the worlds most effective arts its been proved through many MMA matches(mixed martial arts) do I want to see any of these in star wars? no I agree there could be more arts based around the starwars fiction but I never ever want to be incapped by a tkd or karate blackbelt even in a fictional world I couldnt live with the shame!!! If I wanted to fly round the room beliving that wing chun will work in a open space I would play the matrix.

best regards

Jija

(plz dont add RL martial arts it would ruin my game feelings and real life feelings being a martial artist)

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There is a large difference between classical "Karate" Martial Arts and wrastling et al. Art, te, do, way versus "how to beat someone up"

Martial ARTS teach you how to live your life so that you hopefully won't ever have to defend yourself, you're much more likely to have to defend someone else. This is seldom taught in a freestyle, testosterone pumped, kick his @$$ hole in the wall.
I find it funny that you specifically mention "Gracie" Ju-Jitsu. This shows your complete lack of knowledge. "Gracie" is just a buzz word. Do you even know the difference between Ju-Jitsu (from Japan) and Brazillian Ju-Jitsu? Do you know of the Gracie's cousins the Muchados?

As for being "effective" well your proof holds no ground. That is entertainment, pure and simple. A karate artist honestly has no need to start a fight inside a ring. A Martial Artist wins by walking out of the ring, or by staying out alltogether. Your comparison isn't valid.

Now is it true that Judo, Ju-Jitsu, Aikido, close in combat is important? Yes it is very much so. Someone who trained in a strip mall, belts for cash, environment has a limited knowledge and would fall easy prey people with grappling training. But most valid martial arts include some grappling training anyway, not nearly to the extent that a pure Judo stylist would train, but they have knowledge of counter joint, sweeping, throwing, enought to defend themself.
Put a grappler in a fight with more than one opponent and well, they can roll around on the floor all they want playing submission with one guy... while the other guy stands over him and kicks his head in. Put a grappler in the ring with a weapon wielding opponent; be it a firearm, a stick, or a sword, and you'll see how "effective" your catch phrase fighting styles really are.

Forms are the centerpiece of training in Martial Arts. Most of the forms I know have been passed down for hundreds and some thousands of years. Within the form lies tremendous knowledge for teaching someone the ART. Forms are like a language, an identity. Forms are not fighting. Forms do not replace the "feel" you must have for being effective. But they provide the fundamental technique training for development of power, and control. Don't come in here putting down forms, as you just put me down as well.

If you actually thing that wing-chung (Wushu in general) doesn't work, I pity the day you ever go pick a fight with a trained wushu stylist. Sure they can do fancy flashy moves, we all like to show off, but they have many more layers to their training. Grow up.

Now I have suggested upon may ocassions that TKA have Judo/ Ju-jitsu/ counter-joint type specials. Being well rounded is very important, but hey the DEVs cant even fix the datapad texture for a reptilian flyer after almost 2 years. Do you really expect them to have any idea how to design an entire Martial Art?

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JIJA wrote:

I didnt say I just do judo im a very well rounded muay thai boxer as well,using Judo for one on 2 you would just slam them into the concrete not going to the ground (unless your stupid) Gracie Jujitsu isnt the buzz word BJJ is,GJJ was its first orginal name started by the gracie brothers and then other people started calling it BJJ cause the gracie brothers game from brazil and it is a offshoot of judo but because the gracies fought which was against the judo kudokhan not to upset grand master Jiguro Kano they called it Gracie Jujitsu,and the most common diffrence between japanese JJ and brazilian or gracie JJ is JJJ has strikes BJJ does not its only a grappling art.

As for entertainment yes partly it is but on the other hand karate stylists have entered the ring as have many other martail arts and other than semmy schilt (hes 6'10)I havent seen anyone use karate efficiently to date.

and as for your wushu nut hugging get a wushu stylst near me and ill play with him like a child plays with toys.

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lol@the gracies

and lol@the wushu statement, as you should know its a 'government approved' watered down version of shaolin stylistics more akin to gymnastics than 'fighting'.

big difference between an 'art' and a 'fight' bro, it is absoloutly immposible to compare any traditional martial arts to contemporary empty handed fighting methods.

a good boxer will give you the smackdown any day of the week. regardless you sound like you do MMA, well fairplay its the been the flavour for a while.

i do 'jeet kune do' (which is not a style)i enjoy the balance of the wing chun aspects and the practicality of the best bits from other combat methods (fencing, western boxing, savate, muai thai, filipino arts, grappling) and make it my own.

it is best not to argue about this style and that style (if not to make yourself sound elitest and stupid).

You get a seperate fighting stance at master brawler................there's your other style. Love or leave it bro.

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JIJA wrote:

I have fought in many tournaments and many fighters for many years,sparring with some protection is ok (gloves and shipads for example)but whats the point of body armour and helmets? mainly helmets just cut off my vision and that means I cant see it to block or pary so some protection can do you alot worse than good,body armour I dont see the point of it if your in a correct defensive position the body is one of the least likely to be hit.

ive been involved with martial arts since I was 4 so I have nearly 13 years of experience in general martial arts I have won many regional judo championships and have fought many fights,I dont need to walk round with my chest puffed out cause im confident anything happens I could end the situation in a second.

ive fought many blackbelts from many disciplinesushally with size diffrence not in my favor I would have even been fighting my first MMA match 1 week ago if I didnt have to pull out cause of sickness,everyone around me is well aware of what I am capable off in a streetfight,I train at least five hours a day in weights running swiming alot of cardio and bag work.

and stop generalizing like you know me "oh some 17 year old punk thinks hes good at martial arts" If you are ever in brighton in england im sure I could take time out of my training to show you why im such a good martial artist(which is mainly cause I train so damn hard and work for it).

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haha you tell him dude!

brighton rocks btw