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Thread: Focus Thread: Innate Armour vs Battle Armour The Armour Break Debate

iijin
Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:25 am
#79
I will have to say this is very disappointing to me...


IA is really not worth a flip in PvP now, get AB'd and all of the sudden you are getting popped for1000-1300 via swordsman and jedi...


We need a natural resistance to AB, I would say it needs to be equivilent to battle armor slicing OR BETTER!, we are tanks. If you are going to mook our damage then we need axtra defense, that is really ours! not attainable at a tier 1 box.



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I think the Dev's are just not very good at designing combat systems, or maybe like I always say There is no such thing as balance!



Just look at the CU, came along, nerfed...everyone started learning about it...now everyone is a swordsman doc wearing AB sliced RIS armor...or a rifleman BH Mcm of some sort...or be the 200 millionth Jedi to unlock...


I resent my swordsman abilities LOL


And I hate using my powerhammer LOL



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GreekKing
Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:31 am
#80

Ijin i know wher eu are commign from but this wouldnt work it would cause chaos in this lsemblance on balance we have between the proffesions. I say this to all of u stop complaining about it since it will not b happening anytime soon i do no thting the devs would do that we have a good prof now make us uber than we get nerfed look at the jedi look how far they ahve fallen from the pre patch 9.




Kregipo


iijin
Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:45 am
#81




GreekKing wrote:


Ijin i know wher eu are commign from but this wouldnt work it would cause chaos in this lsemblance on balance we have between the proffesions. I say this to all of u stop complaining about it since it will not b happening anytime soon i do no thting the devs would do that we have a good prof now make us uber than we get nerfed look at the jedi look how far they ahve fallen from the pre patch 9.






Balance is pure myth...we are tanks, then make us tanks...make us defensivly better then everyone else under all circumstances..after all aren't we tanks!?1?!

Personally I have aquired my battle armor, and I will finish getting it sliced today, as much as I hate armor and used TKM so I didnt need armor, IA is not sufficiant in the current system.


BTW: Jedi were not nerfed because of their power, they were nerfed because of their numbers, SOE wanted to make Jedi easy so they had to bring it closer to the elite professions considering they knew 70% of the people would become Jedi. If Jedi was still rare I guarantee it would be as powerful if not more than pre 9.



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GreekKing
Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:47 am
#82

Were fine against normal mobs they dont use ab so that isnt a prob what u want and other ppl in tk is instant uber pvp armor it isnt goign to happen.




Kregipo


iijin
Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:50 am
#83
TBH: And I know this wouldn't happen, but even being a swordsman AB using powerhammer wielding TKM, I could really see AB taking a permanant leave from this game...it would do many great things, for one it would take alot of emphasis from the must have attitude towards healing, two it would take the must have out of swordsman, currently there are two things you MUST HAVE according to everyones vision of melee, 0030 in swords and 4000 in doc or cm...



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GreekKing
Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:51 am
#84

Armor break is melees balance for ranges better weapons..




Kregipo


iijin
Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:53 am
#85




GreekKing wrote:


This argument could go on for a while since we both know alot about tk and its possibilitys.





hehe




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maigy
Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:55 am
#86
No we want TKM to be the bet tank, since that is what they said we will be. Currently in PvP Master Swordsman or master fencer or master Pikeman are much better tanks that TKM.



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GreekKing
Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:56 am
#87

But u are forgeting that tank is as in pve we dont have a specific role in pvp. Yes u may be a tank and we have better battle armor than most for pve but getting a ab resistance on top of 6k battle armor for free is overpowering so u are telling me u want pvp armor that is as good as a set of armro ppl pay for 1 mil or more somethimes. Think about it not only do u get access to clothign wiht u cna put ca;s in free and dont decay as fast as armor and u want ab resistance that is overkill




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maigy
Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:58 am
#88




GreekKing wrote:


I dont remember seeing a post saying tkm=uber tank for pvp now for pve that is different.





Read the CU notes the pointed out taht each profession will have it's role, and TKMs role is tank



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GreekKing
Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:59 am
#89

Baa being triple teamed i need reinforcements.




Kregipo


iijin
Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:59 am
#90




GreekKing wrote:


Armor break is melees balance for ranges better weapons..





powerhammer is comparable to rifle in stats, and with AB it is unbalanced





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iijin
Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:04 am
#91
Tanks do exist in PvP and you know what their usual template is?


DocSwords Pike



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