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Thread: Brawler correspondant not acting in a professional manner....

RunemonIV
Wed Dec 03, 2003 2:40 pm
#66

i need a web host lol i got screen shots of my sword doing 700 damage to a skyk and where as my vks and fists did only about 500.. and even if i were 20% off the mark as you suggested gabe.. isnt that still over powered for a novice profession??


seriously pikemen and unarmed brawlers got it bad untill mastery.. then of course tka over exceeds pikemen by like leaps and bounds.. swords men are like the energizer bunny they keep going and going and going...


there is hardly any risk for a novice brawler to take on something many levels higher than himself for fast cheesy exp.. hell im out killin bombadas now on corellia with a novice brawler as i write this




Day one Veteran of the game.. just a little fed up.. /tiny
Jockothemonkey
Wed Dec 03, 2003 3:33 pm
#67

You can hit for over 2k damage with overcharge shot using a rifle and only rifles 2 or 3 so I would say 700 damage from a sword attack isn't overpowered.



Arako Karsi

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Selwynn
Wed Dec 03, 2003 3:41 pm
#68

StGabriel, the bottom line is this and there is really no way around it:

TK's are part of your family - the bralwer family. You don't go around trying to **edit** them in the ass becuase you play another class from that same family.

I agree that pikemen are too weeak, that swordsman and fencers both need help. But that's just it -- you should be able advocating the BUFFING of other underpowered classes NOT the nerfing of a class that is FINALLY - FINALLY - fun to play.

As a brawler corrsponded, you should defend every brawler profession, period. You should be able what brawler classes can get not what they can get taken away!

Should TKS have more love now? NO. Not before other brawler classes get the loving they so rightfully deserve! But neither should TKS be nerfed back down to your BROKEN level - instead, other classes should be FIXED. Please spend time on that message, not a message of screwing 1/4 of your brawlers out of a class that is finally fun.

Thanks,
Laur



Laurianna Goodspeed, TKM, Master Chemist
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Scylla server - Coren, Naboo

"I survived Melon Nerf 2003"

Zernia
Thu Dec 04, 2003 12:24 am
#69

I readed yesterday all post once, sleeped overnight and re-readed whole things again.


StGabriel is neft-mongoing with his posts, he just posts best sides of profession at certain situation. And same time he forgets rest of the problems.


Shaming behaving from Brawler Correspondent.

Mister_Heavy
Thu Dec 04, 2003 1:15 am
#70

Well, I had writen a long, eloquent response to this thread, and then I tried to post it and the board ate it.



Suffice it to say that St.Gabe is NOT anti-TKA. I've read his posts on the correspondent forum and he's never said anything in any official capacity that could be construed as a request for a TKA nerf.


That being said, if the changes on TC had gone live, we would have been overpowere. Plain and clear. He was making that point, which was valid. The people on the general discussion forum are not known for their civility, and the whole thing blew up. Personally, I don't even read the discussion forum, and I doubt any of the devs besides TH do either.


Also, believe me when I say that the devs are aware of the fact that they've put effort into TKA and not the other melee professions as much. It's not like they're going to forget about all the work they did, compare us to those poor, ignored pikemen, and decide we need a good nerfing.


There are a number of overarching combat balancing changes in the works, and I expect the other melee professions to greatly benefit, but not at the expense of TKAs.




Heavy
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-Master Commando: ret'd-
SilthDraeth
Thu Dec 04, 2003 1:40 am
#71

Ban the brawler Corespondent from the TKA thread.


You have no business here.




~Silth Draeth~
Death before Dishonor
Love before hate
Valkari-TKM
Thu Dec 04, 2003 2:45 am
#72






StGabriel wrote:
You flaunted false information and pictures and called them "fact" on A PUBLIC FORUM, which just happens to be supporting a nerf on the TKA profession.

Which information was false?

It was not false that the things that I said I did under the HAM system are things that I actually did under the new HAM system. So what exactly are you referring to?

StGabe.




i bet i have been a TKM longer then you have, and ive been through times were we just flat out sucked, not as much as pikemen and i think every TKA and every melee class knows and has said at one time or another that pikemen are lacking in a hard way.


I can say this though about TKs, we are powerfull, but thats intended, and thus is not overpowered.


it is intended all the things you bring question and say are perhaps overpowered? or should the devs decide.


they have decided, and it is you, not the devs that have decided to fuel the fire of hate twords tks.



you make faulse claims in a few posts, I know this because I probably know more about TK then you, a corespondant.


1) tk has low VKs, but to any of the (ive never been a tk person) they see that as, high dmg low ham class. wich is faulse and a lie. We exspend some of the highest ham costs of any melee and or any ranged class in the entire game for using specials. We kick those specials out extremly fast, at cap speed, and at high amounts of damage. Those damages that we do are in line with other elite ranged professions, just not melee professions, wich are vastly underpowered, and should be looked at.


2) you concentrated on TK, probably you will say that is because you are a tk yourself, but as a corespondant people see you as a sort of official, and you never once said anything about how a master Swordsman can out perform a master TK melee in PVE, wich is true, and i can prove this.


3) you misslead the public about TK damage, you obviously either dont care, or dont know about the truth. The truth is that TKs are 30 second warriors. Do not use buffs and armor to justify your actions, because all class's ahve that avialable, only focus on what you can do buffless and w/o armor vs the same conditions vs another proffession. To illustrate what im talknig about here. our damage is fast, and hard,.....but only is that hard for 30 seconds. in that 30 second time period. we have exspended our mind pool from heals, and switch tactics to intimdate and no style attacks. This is because TK is one of the HIGHEST ham class's in the game reguarding specials. and YOU KNOW THIS.


4) you are talking about Mr. Heavy's proffesion, you seem to have no respect for his role as TKM corespondant, and certinaly decided that maybe you would make a better TKA corespondant then him, wich is totaly wrong.



finnaly im thankfull i droped master brawler friend, im sorry you dont like us, or what ever reason, but im very happy your not my corespondant, and i ask you to politly stop talking about TKs unless its in your little corespondant forum play house, and i hate to say this to a corespondant, but go away man, you are really just making things worse here.


go help brawlers advocate for pikemen, if your concerned with TKA talk to heavy, talk to devs, dont go on a flame thread, and fuel that more, with little minds at work who want everyone nerfed.


TKA is the last proffession that needs nerfed, and is the bench mark for all meleee class's were they should be at.


not saying that TKA is the best, because ive been slaped silly by swordsman and fencing, all im saying is that we needed work, our corspondant did one hell of a job, much better then the pikemen corespondant, and we got results, stop complaing about them, you should be happy for us, not moaning on the boards, like a 10 yaer old kid who flames and trolls.


ive said my peace




Valkari
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~ Master Battle-Tank ~
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Trung
Thu Dec 04, 2003 2:58 am
#73

The only thing overpowered is dizzy kd in pvp and warcry 1 and 2 stacking. Otherwise the teras kasi has no bleeds and sucks up an incredible amount of ham to do its damage, which is purely kinetic and to even get light armor piercing we have to use knucklers which suck up even more ham.



Eclipse: Hatred

Master merchant, medic
spoiledbrat
Thu Dec 04, 2003 4:22 am
#74

My char is almost TKA Master, and I have to agree to StGabriels statements.


It´s gotten a little easy and easy doesnt mean fun for me.


Sorry, but some readjustments to the TKA-Profession is very reasonable, and they will come definetly.




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Trung
Thu Dec 04, 2003 5:28 am
#75

Again the only things that are easy for tka are low armor low kintetic resists things. They are very good at taking these down, that is their specialty. Every single profession doesnt have to be equally good at the exact same things.



Eclipse: Hatred

Master merchant, medic
64Bit
Sat Dec 06, 2003 12:56 pm
#76

K, I've read all the posts and everything has been said in one form or another. But my 2 cents


StGabe:


Drop master brawler and try the same things over again, without Warcry2 and the unarmed bonuses that you get from master brawler.


I cannot solo a Kryat without powerboost, muon gold, stim-B (400+), breath of heaven,Ryshcake (sp?), 70% kinetic resist Ubese armor and my pet (a lvl 22 Narglatch which gets incapped). Please tell me how you do it?


Novice fencer andnovice swordsman were much easier to get than novice tk. And novice pikemanis a real pain not to mention the lack of available high class weapons. The weapons available to fencer and swordsman in the brawler tree are as fast and do more damage (sliced) than what is available to novice TK. Have you worked as ahrd as these professions as you seem to have at TK? Have you tried master brawler and pistoleer? You think TK are overpowered, try that? Or MCH or Commando or about half-a dozen others?


Why aren't you posting about positive changes required to the othermelee professions, especially pikeman? Instead of a negative post about TK? Whatever your reasons, your post will be taken as food for other professions, especially ranged,to nerf TK again.Your "facts" are not objective and are misleading at the least.


The last thing, there are a lot of professions, elete professions, that when combined with master brawler do more damage and are more effective. Have you tested those out as well for being overpowered, or is it just TK that you have a problem with?





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