Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: Razor Knuckler/alternate knuckler discussion thread.
anavelg0083
Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:01 pm
#53
What about they would be armor piercing heavy so that would make it better in pvp battles.
-Ishutzo
TKA
Bhaalspawn273
Sat Jul 31, 2004 8:31 pm
#54
They tried this on TC and it was WAY unbalanced. Even though it was heat damage.
Ryuukon
Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:28 pm
#55
I still don't see what the problem is with having blast damage. Stepping on swordsmen's toes? Pfff.... They have an AP2 blast hammer. A HAMMER! How in the world does a hammer pierce armor? But I digress.....
Let the swordsmen have their AP2 blast damage hammer, while our new VK would be blast damage AP1. Blast is the most feasible damage type for TK aside from kinetic. A blast plate along the knuckles triggers a smallexplosion upon impact with the target. And don't say "where would the ammo fit for it?" cause I'll say 2 words to you. Launcher Pistol. Where do you think all those tiny rockets are stored? 
If not blast, then cold would probably be the next best option for the new knucks. How that could be rationalized I have no idea. A spray of liquid nitrogen upon impact I guess. Not sure. I still like the blast idea more.
KrazyRay
Sat Jul 31, 2004 11:07 pm
#56
I see a cold based VK being very useful as there arent many things that can do that damage anyhow. Getting like blast, stun, or electric would be cool but all we would hear would be complaining from the other melee classes themselves. This would put some power to a cold based weapon. I also have rifleman with TKM and i must say i hardly ever have used my cold rilfe cant see it working any better than the T-21 anyways.
garlandgreen
Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:19 am
#57
Just make it kinetic damage unarmed and blast or something with VK
SORTED.....
Kyodor
Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:25 am
#58
Cold damage is the only thing really possible.
- Heat is close to useless actually because many things with high Kinetic resists have high Heat resists.
- Stun is Fencer's damage type - let them keep that.
- Blast is Swordmsna's damage type - let them keep that.
- Electricity is Pikeman's damage type - let them keep that.
Cold damage VK for teh win !!!11!!!!ONE
- Heat is close to useless actually because many things with high Kinetic resists have high Heat resists.
- Stun is Fencer's damage type - let them keep that.
- Blast is Swordmsna's damage type - let them keep that.
- Electricity is Pikeman's damage type - let them keep that.
Cold damage VK for teh win !!!11!!!!ONE
GabrielMichaels
Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:18 pm
#59
Being that all composite base covers high but stun/lightsaber, VK's should be AP3 with same damage crafting system now. Being kinetic, it would even out, not taking advanteage of a damage type but keeping all overpowered professions in check. If not AP3 then attach a Dot exclusive to TKM or looted weapons, like FIRE.
Orryhazard
Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:45 pm
#60
I always thought it made sense to leave the knuckler damage type alone.
Why not change it so that "no weapon", true unarmed is stun damage. To me that would make some sense. When you punch someone you dont actuall cut them. You are mashing their organs into the inside of the body frame. That kind of sound like stun damage to me.
adj4989
Sat Aug 07, 2004 6:08 pm
#61
I don't really see the point in pushing for a different damage type... composite armor has high resists to pretty much every damage type except for stun (your a complete idiotif you think that the devs are ever gonna give us stun damage). I, like many others, would like for VKs to have AP2.
Spuzzed
Sun Aug 08, 2004 12:59 am
#62
I personally would like to see a cold damage type weapon. Cold damage isnt used by many people currently and I believe the only weapon to have it is the SG82 rifle. You wouldnt be stepping on anybodys toes, and youd be giving TKA a unique damage type.
Sovi-FFO
Sun Aug 08, 2004 3:05 am
#63
Orryhazard wrote:
I always thought it made sense to leave the knuckler damage type alone.
Why not change it so that "no weapon", true unarmed is stun damage. To me that would make some sense. When you punch someone you dont actuall cut them. You are mashing their organs into the inside of the body frame. That kind of sound like stun damage to me.
You do notice this would only decrease our damage against stun-armored fighters?
40% Resist from Armor itself (stun armor stats on my server) another 50% damage reduction because of AP0 plus you will be doing even less damage because you dont have the added damage from the VKs
Sovi-FFO
Sun Aug 08, 2004 3:06 am
#64
Dunno if someone answered it but I dont want to read every single post atm, Proton Nades are heat damage, you are thinking of Cryobans
Co-valent wrote:
Iawo wrote:
Pretty sure I saw one on a loot vendor. Checked my certs, and it's a fairly low cert weapon ifI remember right... somewhere on the marksman tree. Maybe I was just a confused noob... but I swear I saw one. Damage was really pathetic though.
No, there definately isn't a cold damage pistol. The only Cold Damage weapons are the SG Rifle and Proton Grenades, atm.
Sovi-FFO
Sun Aug 08, 2004 3:10 am
#65
GabrielMichaels wrote:
Being that all composite base covers high but stun/lightsaber, VK's should be AP3 with same damage crafting system now. Being kinetic, it would even out, not taking advanteage of a damage type but keeping all overpowered professions in check. If not AP3 then attach a Dot exclusive to TKM or looted weapons, like FIRE.
I would rather see pikemen get an AP3 weapon, since NO melee profession has one.. not even jedi