Teras Kasi Archive

"OK for all the idiots that could not read the original post I will repeat myself.

I was wearing armour, Vk's to prove a point on the ham cost of KD, showing it to my brother and to a guild, and to a guy that does reviews for games.........."

Ok first you were showing your brother, then it was your brother and a guild, and now its your brother, a guild and a guy that does reviews? You change your story more than Joseph Smith.

Well im on tat, im a 0/1/1/0 tka novice, and i took down a zucca boar lair, with 5 zucca boars just fine.maybe if you play the game the way it was meant to be (martial artists dont wear armor). agree that having to take off VK is dumb, but is it really that hard to adapt?

"I attacked a Cornellian butterfly lair with knockdown, and was wearing armour and v-knuckles. The KD cost me 900+ ham."

WHY DOES EVERYONE USE KNOCKDOWN!? Get a doctor to give you 1K more H and A........Get knucklers.........Berserk..........**edit**!? ITS SO EASY TO BE GOOD! YOU JUST REALLY SUCK BALLS AT THIS GAME! Quit now..........

that's right, don't use kd with vibro knucklers equpped, so the one handed, two handed, and spear-based brawler skills should also have to unequip their weapons before using a kd... gues what??? they don't, they are penalized 14 ham to use a kd, then whatever they have equipped also has an encumberance... the bh skill, i've never seen them have to unequip for a kd, if we have to do it, so do the ranged and other brawlers... oh yeah, guess what, it's still gonna give you great trouble in doing this, because tk still gets penalized more than 14 ham when their weapons aren't even equipped... come on, give me a better arguement than this, i saw a guy wearing chitin armor... he was a pikesman i believe, using knockdown 12 times on pikets on dantooine... did he ever run out of ham??? well... only when the piket hit him... his ham bars barely even moved with his armor on and his weapon equipped... we need to seriously write the developers on this one...

"almost 1k ham cost specials are ignorant, and there is no way to defend it."

I agree, losing 1k HAM because you are too dumb to take off your knuckers is ignorant.

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Orius wrote:
we are meant to fight unarmed. they added knucklers in as a way to augment damage not to be used as our primary "weapon". our fists are our primary weapon. and thats not what the post started as, it was someone saying our class is "fubared" and that he died to a butterfly and im saying thats sad. the mob i fought was 10k hp that hits for around 100+ per hit . what do those butterflies have for hitpoints? 100? and what do they hit for? 10 dmg? Sad.

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I'm just a TKA novice who doesn't have KD yet. I think the big issue is how a baby butterfly can even hit a TKM and do damage. The rest is just game mechanics. Melee and especially ranged defence, or rather the lack of it, is my biggest concern as a TKA.

That said, I fight unarmored with VK. The only specials I use are warcry or intimiate and then zerk and I take yellows and low reds or a lair of white cons (I like the latter as I am almost a master ranger from harvesting the corpses). I'll rarely use UH2 or dizzy if I am low on HAM and need a db or am grouped with ranged characters and want exp. Pulling with debuffing traps certainly helps. As does healing myself, which I think is silly to be honest, but I'm not a roleplayer.

A 10k mob that only hits for 100+ per hit? Pretty sad actually as even the mobs I fight do that. So it doesn't surprise me that a weak mob like that can get owned so easily by a TKM even with so many HP.

I've tried buffing myself with foods but by the time I gain the stats the food has worn off. I don't do spices as I want to keep my cold blooded body pure.

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sbjnyc wrote:

I'll rarely use UH2 or dizzy if I am low on HAM and need a db or am grouped with ranged characters and want exp.

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Replace "if" with "unless".

Actually, baby butterflies are broken.... in melee they do reduced damage, but at ranged they do as much damage as aan adult ( I think this is true for most baby things that have ranged attacks)

I do pay $15/mth to have fun, and I do have fun. I can dislike my class, they can nerf me into the ground and make everything I do incap myself, and I would still have fun playing the game the way I do. I have no problems soloing 12k HAM mobs, I'm 0 1 2 1 into TKA along with Master Brawler. Warcry? Anyone? Use the skills your given? /gasp? /shock? Beserk? Intimidate? Lunge? These all work if you know how to place them accordingly to the mob, albeit we have bugs, we are still a completely functional class that can kick some serious ass, if you USE what you have. The point of playing is to have fun with everything you get, not just acouple skills that make the game easier for you to do. Those mobs that are killing you? Try a WarCry on them, and a stun, see what happens, its amazing what you can learn from actually trying.

La~

Just read this whole thread. Are there really that many people defending the fact that a martial artist using a weapon that HE HAS A CERT FOR should do more damage to himself than the target?

Are there people on here actually defending that you have to take off the VKs so you don't do 700, 800, 900+ damage to yourself? Are people here really defending that we should use lunge and 'zerk (brawler skills)? Heck I had those before any of the current "martial arts" (or as it could be called "suicide") training.

Just to reiterate, don't our counterparts get to use their pistols and rifles for KD at range? Or are they expected to remove their certified weapons so that they dont commit suicide??? Heck I was in a group with a non-master rifleman (no specialty)and he was very commonly shooting MOBs for 1200+ damage. Not to mention the cool skills likebleeding and suppression fire.

I just don't know. I have used KD all of 2 times since I got it, principally to see how bad it really was, and it really was that bad (-800 HAM). Please just remove the skill, replace it, rework it, but don't make the dang thing kill us in a single move.

Oscu

Poori what do you expect most the of the mockers did not even realize my post or even read it in the first place. They are just uber SWG players that are better than me.

They are too dumb to understand that I used knockdown on something with equipment on to show the HAM cost to someone.

HAVING TO TAKE OF VIBRO KNUCKLES AND ARMOUR AND GET NAKED TO DO A SPECIAL MOVE, WHETHER YOU "ADAPT" OR NOT IS STUPID!!!!!

I cannot believe people just take it. They are paying 15 a month after they paid 60 for the game, and no matter what SOE does, they just keep on obsessing with the grind of SWG.

They could make it to where normal attacks incapacitated you, and people would just say you were a noob, and you suxxor, find away around it. You people just do not get it, and will be that way until there are 20 people on each server.

I hope to god alot of you enjoy SWG and keep playing it, so we won't have the same blind "do to me whatever you want" attitude in WoW.

It is really sad and pathetic that people can not even read a post, and just start calling people noobs, and **edit** like that. But hey what a concept, actually reading the post.

As of right now Knockdown can do more damage to use than a freaking Kryat dragon!!!! Yet to some of you that is ok!!! Whatever, I give up, I am sick of wasting my time just like I did back in AC2 trying to get developers and fanboy players to listen.

Whether some of you want to admit it or not, this game is worse than AC2 and is heading the same way fast.

The only reason people are still playing are these

1.)beautiful graphics

2.)people are deluded thinking the game will get better in 6 months, even though they have to pay that whole time, and the game gets worse with each patch.

3.) or they just love SW too much.

Just to give you a example.

I called SOE to talk to them about the constant nerfs/bugs etc. I actually got a tech support guy on the phone that said he refused to play the game for at least 6 months.

they will get no more money from me, and they can forget me buying EQ2. I cannot stand game breaking nerfs that are ignorant.

almost 1k ham cost specials are ignorant, and there is no way to defend it.

Wake up and smell the cofee people