Teras Kasi Archive

Thread: Player Mounts is this the end of all melee professions?

Gamexaholic
Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:46 pm
#40






aSHARK8me wrote:

Well my good friends i know you were all wondering when i would step in to solve this problem. The solution is ... to get your own mount. That negates the entire problem. And i dont want to hear : "Ohhh, but we still cant catch up with them!!"


rothgarr







You seem to forget that 2 people runing at the same speed will never catch eachother unless one of them stops runing in a atsraight line but why would they do that if youa re following, another thing is that catching them would make no diference at all as melee moving and trying to hit = target is out of range.


So getting a mount for melee is nice but for pvp all it will do is let you run like a pantsy and hide.

Jaif
Tue Oct 07, 2003 3:50 pm
#41

I don't see how this hurts melees any more. Prior to this, a melee caught in the open was at a strong disadvantage unless they had other skills (CH, range) to fall back on. Now it's the same thing, only faster speeds with no specials.

It just comes back to the same thing it always was - don't fight in the open if you're only going to fight as melee.

-Jeff
Ballem
Tue Oct 07, 2003 3:56 pm
#42

Well if we wont be able to use specials while riding a mount I dont see a problem since the damage someone does without specials is very minimal so whoever pvps on a mount is one dumb **edit**. They should put a delay while mounting and dismounting and not be able to hotkey it though. Because if there was no delay and you could hotkey it...it would be special..shoot..shoot...mount run...dismount...special shoot shoot dead. They should put a delay of like 5 seconds when mounting and dismounting so that this cant happen and the mounts should not be able to be dragged to the bar to be hotkeyed.
aSHARK8me
Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:57 pm
#43





Gamexaholic


You seem to forget that 2 people runing at the same speed will never catch eachother unless one of them stops runing in a atsraight line but why would they do that if youa re following, another thing is that catching them would make no diference at all as melee moving and trying to hit = target is out of range.


So getting a mount for melee is nice but for pvp all it will do is let you run like a pantsy and hide.





When i said "that by also haveing a mount, you negate thier advantage", I ment that we will be back in the same boat that were in now! chasing on foot you cant catch them, mounted you cant catch them. Haveing mounts will not change PVP, thats my point. unless your a poor sap and dont have a mount! Haha- already have a dewback waiting...


rothgarr




R


Rothgarr


"What... is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow?"

Sir-Charles_Galperin
Wed Oct 08, 2003 4:49 am
#44

Kiter gets on mount, kiter finds a melee class character to harass, melee character gets attacked burst runs at mount, melee character beats bejesus outa mount, kiter left without a getaway, kiter dies



dunno but thats what i hope to do.


are we going to be able to attack the mount??




Sir-Charles Galperin
TKA 1-4-4-4
Master Medic
Novice Doctor 0-2-1-1
Corbantis server
ChroMatiC
Wed Oct 08, 2003 5:51 am
#45

We can never be sure what actually happens until they finally add the feature. Maybe we can KD them from their mount.
I can't wait to get an FS slot opened up so I can "Force" them, off
MadcowwithSARS
Wed Oct 08, 2003 7:17 am
#46

i dont know about the rest of you,but when im in game i never wear my master TKA or any TKA title,or even wear my Vks.i carry a pistol around...why you say.because that lame person who is gonna kite you when he sees you have Vks or a TKA title up.i know if you have no pistol skill you wont do damage hardly,but that is all show.all you have to do is be able to live long enough to put on a little show.make them think you are a novice marksman or whatever.and when they close to pistolwhip you or just decide to stop running.now is the time to hotswap out the gun for Vks and knockdown2 blind dizzy and unarmed hit 3 till their eyes pop out.


my suggesstion is to spend less energy complaining about the people who use game mechanics(Kiting)and start complaining to those that need to fix it.


remember your not being kited unless you drag yourself behind them like that.and if you do chase them do what i suggested at least give them a show till you can get close.i did notice that ranged defense didnt seem to work too well anyway.so what the heck.




"No botha de' Jabba"


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Kaleix
Wed Oct 08, 2003 7:44 am
#47

Instead of crying about it now and puting forth all these "what if" situations. Why don't you wait until they implement them first and then cry about them then! I seriously doubt any of you have even tested the mounts yet...



Vertigo
Imperial
Teras Kasi Monk & Master Doctor
Vylin
Wed Oct 08, 2003 7:59 am
#48

I swear you people are the EXACT reason why I don't come to these boards and only look at Dev Tracker. With the exception of a few sane and intelligent people who have posted you are all complete goofs!



I am a Teras Kasi because I LIKE BEING A TERAS KASI AND FIGHTING UNARMED!!! If I get kited and lose so what?



For you people who say TK should get some ranged attacks...quit TK and become a friggin Marksman and go whine on those boards!



Mounts are going to change the game greatly. They will allow me to quit out of Scout for that Terrain Navigation and gain a lot of extra points to play with. And you know what, if someone with a gun is on a Mount or Vehicle MELEE HAS NO CHANCE!!! AND THAT IS THE WAY IS SHOULD BE!!!! Alex Gong (A Muay Thai Kickboxer) was shot in killed bya person who hit his car after he chased them on foot through traffic (this happened August 1st).



For the person who wanted DragonBall powers...wait until you are a friggin Jedi! I am sick and tired of everyone wanting THEIR class to simply outmatch everyone else. PvP is about tactics and learning to adapt your game to the situation. You get killed by the guy camping the mission terminals...wait, declare, then set up what you are going to do. There ARE times when you WILL lose!



Whenever I go to ANY profession Forum there are no positive posts, just threads about how the profession is Nerfed or is getting Nerfed, just constant whining and complaing! You all need to either quit the game, change your profession, or grow up and join the REAL Teras Kasi in the game who don't whine and bitch about every little thing.



Oh and don't bother replying with flames. I don't care what you have to say so I won't be checking this again.




Vylin Vaynard
Imperial Colonel
ChroMatiC
Wed Oct 08, 2003 10:10 am
#49

I couldn't have said it better

A satisfied M-TKA
evolvdForm
Thu Oct 09, 2003 1:23 am
#50

"melee players should get mounts with range attacks"


Yes!!! I want a dewback with 2 onboard flamethrowers!!!!!




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Aynsun
Thu Oct 09, 2003 1:56 am
#51

I dont really see mounts affecting much to pvp, least in cities. And why? specials... Of course BH or commando can kill without using specials if they hitbut melee isn't that popular so personally i wouldn't be mounted just to wait that i could kill some meleer while some ranged guy is going to kill me with specials.


As for attacking from mount, Think about it, tka sitting on dewback... and how far you think you would hit with your fist? perhaps 0.5m or longer if your hand is quite mutated.




Account cancelled and business closed, Bye bye all
Vandalian
Thu Oct 09, 2003 2:52 am
#52

So you meleers are still mad about the kiting issue. Something you can do is pay attention to the number next to their name. That tells you the actual distance in meters of the target no matter what the graphics show. Also, don't forget that at brawler 1 you get a ranged posture change: lunge!. Its really good advice to wear a pistol wherever you go...My tactic when being attacked: first off gotta have pistol and helm equipped. now../follow.../unarmedlunge1 (when within 12m), then KD2 when I get to them (I wait till 1 second after it says 3m to compensate for possible lag), then I win....Try this simple tactic against the next pistoleer that comes along and you'll probably have better luck. Also, I hear intimidate mentioned too little in posts. Intimidate is more effective than blind or stun and it has a range of 20m at novice brawler! it lowers the target's damage output by approximately 60%!. Have fun with power boost btw!



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