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Thread: People don't like dizzy, thats fair. Is there an alternative though to stop kiting?
to knock the ranged person to the ground. 
Basically, they are a set of new specials that require a target, provides a short burst of speed, a damage multiplier, lowers defenses briefly, has a minimum and maximum range, and noticeable HAM costs.
Drawback being that it would need to be used so often that the melee fighters would end up draining their HAM bars just trying to stay in range, remember all that a ranged fighter as to do is move outside of 15m and we're completely screwed. You'd need to spam the specials over and over just to try and keep up with them and that really isn't very helpful. Also because you commit yourself to the special there's nothing to stop the ranged fighter from then stopping you in your tracks with a move like KD of supression fire. That means you'd end up with a massive ham cost, plus the damage caused from the special and whatever follows. Also dropping the players defences even lowerjust to close the gap to provide a fair fight isn't a verygood way to help the melee professions. We need a means to provide a fair fight without already suffering more penalties than we do at range.
actually, i eventually intend to compliment the tkm with a ranged attack, but it's not a necessity to do well in pvp. unfortuanately, the only true content to the game anymore is changing profs and learning what they do.
Tal-N wrote:
The first thing I'd say is that why does posture down need to be on a 30 second timer anyway? The players can still fight back for starters unlike with KD, so spamming it over and over simply leads to someone being held in place. I can understand KD being spammed and making encounters are too easily but posture down didn't have that effect, once someone is down to low as to be prone they can't be lowered any further plus they're speed is greatly reduced and you cause x2 damage now as well. So in terms of dealing with someone once you're within 15m of range is to take the timer off of posture down otherwise the only way for someone to hold a mob within striking range is with KD/Dizzy.
Message Edited by JCruz on 02-20-2004 05:30 AM
Tal-N wrote:
And once again I'll point out that the issue here is why does any melee profession exist in the game when we know that they suffer in ranged combat because they simply get stuck with a lose/lose situation. Thats around 1/5 of the professions in the game having little or not purpose, like you said melee sucks in PvP which is exactly half of the game so therefore to keep the professions worthwhile there needs to be a reasonable balance struck between ranged and melee combat because at the moment ranged is vastly superior with no genuine weakness.
I think the effectivness of KD/Dizzy should be reduced and I don't think there should be any compensation? Harsh? Possibly, but consider this.
I'm a master rifleman who PvPs a lot, I have no other combat skills so I learned when and where to engage enemies in PvP. Let's look at the 2 most common battle grounds, urban areas and open areas.
If a TK is hiding among buildings or inside one I can not attack. I have been foolish and tried a few times as I hope I can kill him with 2 strafe 2 shots, but I always learn the hard way it's impossible. I get KD/Dizzy usually before I even get one shot of. I have no way to take out a master TKA that hides inside a building, I either have to wait for him to get impatient or leave.
Then let's look at the open areas. This is where I can fight, as I am able to kite the melee fighters. But it's far from a sure victory. Due to characters having to load they can often be within 50 metres before I spot them. If they burstrun and I spot it too late they can get close enough to kill me with the usual KD/Dizzy.
So the point being is that I have no way to get a Master TKA inside a building, while he does have a fair chance (allthough small) to get me in the open. This IS star wars, and melee characters are extremly usefull if used correctly. Just like a rifleman has to stay away from the urban areas to be sure he always got 30+ m to his opponent a melee fighter has to learn where he can fight.
i'm confused with your reasoning quas. when we are on your domain in the open you have the ability to use your specials, but when we are fighting in buildings you don't want us to have the kd/dizzy?