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Thread: Petition against Thunderheart's upcoming TK nerfs

Xeranx
Wed Dec 10, 2003 9:16 pm
#27



antares_Kauri wrote:
He was speaking hypothetically. Notice he said: "for instance, if..." and TKA have never been the big damage-dealers and I don't think they would be made to be such. He was simply making an example and showing how every class cannot be all-powerful. He's not implying a nerf or such thing. Get a grip.

antares
master pikeman




Even so, why did he focus on TKA. We've been up and down the nerf spectrum and now we're good. We have our weaknesses (amplified by lag and such). There's no reason we should be made the example. I'm sick and tired of being the whipping boy.





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antares_Kauri
Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:00 am
#28


Gekok wrote:

I am being realistic with the past track record with TK's getting nerfed.

I suggest you wake up and smell the coffee my friend. You might want to visit your own professions forums while your at it.





"past track record with TK's getting nerfed" - ? Like what? HAM costs? You guys get a lot of help/fixes/bonuses, don't kid yourself.

And, you can read your own forums, too:
Is Thunderheart implying a looming TK nerf?
TH did not mention TKA by coincidence; imminent nerf ahead?
Lots of other TKA don't think he was implying a nerf.

antares
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Gekok
Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:05 am
#29

Do we really play the same game and read the same forums?


Hello? Guess what game is about to get a total combat revamping? Guess what profession was named specifically as"possible needing nerfed".


Let's break these couple of sentences down for you from Thunderheart:


"Its got to be reasonable, for instance, if TKA's are the damage dealers, then they are going to need a weakness and they can't be stealing all the thunder either."


You don't need a college English degree here to draw a conclusion that the devs have some feelings that the TK's don't have enough weaknesses.


Surely you and your infinite wisdom can make this basic connection here. This petition is to stop the possible unnecessary nerfing before it occurs, not to bi%#h, moan, and groan after the fact.


Hopefully you can understand this concept.....................


Gekok

dashida
Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:08 am
#30

The entire combat system is getting revamped, not just TKAs. You cant say that we will be worse off when the new system is implemented because no one knows what that system is.

Like i said, get a grip.





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Kashir Moor · Master Ranger · Teräs Käsi

atimes
Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:10 am
#31

Dude be quiet. As far as a "constant stream of TKA nerfs" I'm doing just fine. Man if I'm doing this good as a TKA I should have been one months ago back before the nerf streams when I could've one hit kill krayts.


You have no earthly idea of what's happening with these new changes and the devs have said this will take 4 months (which really means 6 months to a year)


Hey folks sign this thread and I'm going to start a new thread to nerf droid engineers after they get their balance pass because they will be too strong from that point on.


Then I want all of us to band together to start a squad leader and pikeman nerf campaign. Man soon they will be too uber for us to take down so let's nerf them now.


You seem to know so much of the devs but you forget to realize that they said for the most part they ignore petitions.

Agaltero
Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:18 am
#32

*pats Gek on the back*

You're choking mate...I told you to chew, first.

Yes, we all play the same game. However, the rest of us understand that a) forum petitions like this are generally worthless, especially when they don't address any specific, and b) aren't inclined to jump to conclusions over potential yet unrealised (or even announced) changes suggested in a hypothetical statement.

No, it doesn't take an English degree to read Thunderheart's statment, nor, it would seem, does it take one to read into said statement.

hy.po.thet.i.cal - adj.

1. Of, relating to, or based on a hypothesis. See synonyms: theoretical

2. Suppositional; uncertain. See synonyms: supposed

3. Conditional; contingent.

Chew, my friend...chew...

Cheers!



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Mister_Heavy
Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:19 am
#33

Guys, the sky is really not falling.... not yet anyway.


For the record, Idon't know any specifics about the upcoming rebalance, but anyone who's read TH's post knows that they're trying to create a niche for each of the various professions. To that end, there will be some things that TKAs excell at, and some things that we won't be able to do very well. I don't know what those things are yet, but as all classes will be effected, it'll tough to call it a nerf if it's done fairly.




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Xeonus
Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:22 am
#34

Just another reason I am quiting. Sick of other classes getting us nerfed....ooops..im not TKA anymore.....getting you guys nerfed.


TKA is great as is and nothing needs to be changed. Thunderpants may be the messenger but he is in on it too. He spoke those words with a obvious attitude of agreement.


TKA has the worst weaknesses out there of ANY and I mean ANY class.


Now I am a Fencer, I left my Master TK skills behind cause I saw this comming. Things were too fun and this class was too good. A nerf was bound to be comming.




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Gekok
Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:23 am
#35

Of course, we always need the people to take any discussion to the opposite side. I didn't state that we needed any of the weaknesses changed so that we can kill krayt dragons. While we are at it, why not just give all TK species an extra set of arms and legs, that way we can kill twice as fast.


Excuse me for not rolling over my back and being content to let the TK profession to get nerfed again. Excuse me for stating the obvious in a time where great change is likely to occur for a profession that is just now getting to where it needs to be.
Excuse me for not sharing the same opinions as yourselves.


Statistically, I did not know that petitions harmed the professions more than they helped them. I didn't realize that SOE shared that information publicaly. Maybe you could prove that statement by showing some proof?


Maybe I guess the key will be going to other forums such as you, and flame other professions for wanting/not wanting change - or flaming others for their opinion just for the sake of flaming.

Kassu
Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:26 am
#36

if they want to nerf damage ...sure whatever. Just run out and get a badass VK. What I really want to see fixed is our Acuity. It's a worthless mod.



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Gekok
Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:27 am
#37

**After Galtero pats Gekok on back from choking, Gekok feeds the same piece of meat back to Galtero.**


Very good, your school showed you a dictionary. Your halfway to english mate! Now if you can just take those definitions from all those wordsand put them into a coherent thought, we might be able to have a meaningful discussion.


/emote thinks Galtero is silly.


antares_Kauri
Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:32 am
#38

Gek, alright...Here, maybe this will be easier:

Q: Are TKA "the damage dealers"?

If you answered "No", which is the correct answer, then you have nothing to worry about from TH's comment because now TKA doesn't need a weakness because they are not "the damage dealers." Good? He's just saying that in the end, as Mister_heavy said, each profession has to have it's strengths and it's weaknesses, there cannot be one end-all profession. He's not specifically pointing out TKA to be nerfed.

Also, I'll repeat what I said earlier to help you calm down, it's not good for the heart. TH used the phrase "for instance, if...". He was speaking hypothetically. No nerf implication here. That is what's obvious, not the otehr way around.

antares
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Xeonus
Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:33 am
#39

TKA should be uber so I can quit Fencer and come back to this class! ahahahahahhaaa





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