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Thread: I just.....I just dont get it...

antares_Kauri
Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:02 pm
#27

I don't know what you consider "fairly high" state defenses, but I don't think swordsman has it.


blind/dizzy/kd/pc/stun/int

40/40/50/50/00/20 fencer

10/20/25/10/50/20 swordsman

20/40/20/30/50/00 pikeman

10/05/20/20/05/00 tka


antares

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HurriwanShinobi
Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:48 pm
#28

they almost equal pikeman state defense......


swordsman have alot more than TKM..... i would say they have fairly high state defenses.



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antares_Kauri
Tue Sep 14, 2004 6:50 am
#29

And yet again, you forget what else TKA has in comparison...

accuracy/melee/ranged/toughness
205/62/45/57 TKA
130/20/15/43 Swordsman
150/74/69/32 Fencer
150/30/25/26 Pikeman

If you don't get hit, you can't have the state applied to you. TKA has far better melee/ranged defenses than swordsman. You have to look at the big picture. TKA does very very well defensively.

antares
master pikeman

Message Edited by antares_Kauri on 09-14-2004 10:02 AM



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|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
NemesiS65
Tue Sep 14, 2004 6:59 am
#30






antares_Kauri wrote:
And yet again, you forget what else TKA has in comparison...

accuracy/melee/ranged/toughness
205/62/45/57 TKA
130/20/15/43 Swordsman
150/74/69/32 Fencer
150/30/25/26 Pikeman

If you don't get hit, you can't have the state applied to you. TKA has far better melee/ranged defenses than swordsman. You have to look at the big picture. TKA does very very well defensively.

antares
master pikeman






The question at hand dealt with state defenses. To which you supplied your wonderful chart for us to follow. Never did I say that tk was poor defensively. Infact I stated that TKM was THE place to start when building a tank. Please read the whole message before handing out 1 stars for an honest non flaming reply. If you want to bring melee/ranged into it then Fencer is still the better class as they will be hit the least of all 4 classes. Now consider for higher end content that a swordsman will kill twice as fast as a tk hence taking less hits and less damage.


See I do look at the bigger picture... where you seem lost in charts and numbers...


PvE it goes like this -


#1 Swordsmen


#2 TKM


#3 Fencer


#4 Pikeman


can you really argue that?

antares_Kauri
Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:01 am
#31


HurriwanShinobi wrote:
they almost equal pikeman state defense......
swordsman have alot more than TKM..... i would say they have fairly high state defenses.



I was replying to this guy, actually. Yes, what you posted was right, especially about how being able to deal damage helps reduce how many hits you take. It's all charts and numbers anyway. Hurriwan was who I was replying to.

Although, I don't think adding up the state defenses in the manner you did tells anything, it's misleading.

antares
master pikeman

Message Edited by antares_Kauri on 09-14-2004 10:02 AM



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Iawo
Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:07 am
#32

The honest truth to everything PvE is that TKM's are just good tanks for rifleman and swordmen.



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