Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: Screwed again...this time in a vette.
Laeren wrote:
Duckfat wrote:
In addition melee can usually count on using high kinetic layered armor but now that they no longer fight back with melee you are usually taking about 30-50% more damage depending on your armor base effectiveness vs the layered resist.
So get some new armor then. And use a PSG.
On a side note, is all the blaster damage on the vette's energy? ordo they do any other damage type too, like heat?
The humanoids use all different types from what I noticed. I thought I saw a cold rifle at one point. Now the droids I think all they do is energy damage, but the damage is HUGE. Not as bad as everyone keeps saying, you will not get 2 shot incapped. It takes about 8-10 shots to the same pool for me, all I wear is 80% armor, no psg (this is why a doc is most important up here). People tend to exagerate when they die with buffs these days, its a shock that to some people there are actually hard things in this game lol.
I've been to the Corvette twice now, and both times I did quite well.
I wasn't hitting for insanely huge amounts of damage, but I wasn't "barely scratching" the target either. We are not that bad off in the Corvette, except possibly against the Super Battle Droids (didn't get to fight those).
We had a few riflemen, two TKAs, a Fencer, and a Heavy Swordsman this last time (as well as Docs) and did very well until we pulled too many aggroes and lost buffs.
The point is that we are not as bad off in the vette as many may believe. There are some opponents that I didn't hurt much, but most of them I was one of the main damage dealers.
Laeren wrote:
Duckfat wrote:
In addition melee can usually count on using high kinetic layered armor but now that they no longer fight back with melee you are usually taking about 30-50% more damage depending on your armor base effectiveness vs the layered resist.
So get some new armor then. And use a PSG.
On a side note, is all the blaster damage on the vette's energy? ordo they do any other damage type too, like heat?
Yeah I do use a PSG and synthsteak and I would get better armor if there were any.
Oh and here is a SS of what some of the imp npcs are firing in the vette.
http://www.two40musclez.com/e11.jpg
WookieOgre wrote:
Duckfat I wont flame and I'll try to explain as best I can,
I wasnt trying to flame you either and am sorry if it came off that way but ill try to explain what I am saying again.
First, yes my job was to tank. Why was I the last one, when you go up against 3 Super Battle Droids and one regular I dont think they are all going to concentrate on one person. That is why I was the last one standing, too many mobs and my group got disorganized as soon as the third Battle Droid entered combat.
I am not saying you were a bad tank. Its just that everyone is a lousy tank in the vette because you can no longer get them to concentrate their fire on you. They do not go into melee with you like other mobs do when you attack them in melee. And even if you do get them to all attack you they are still using AOE ranged shots that damage a good part of your group.
I went to the Corvette again yesterday. I actually checked the stats of almost everything. The best resists was the Super Battle Droid, 85% kinetic. Only other thing that matched that was the Admirals. Almost everything else ranged from 50%-75%. Most of the rebel mobs had 50-60% resists. This is not an opinion, its fact. I dont think it has anything to do with it being a Rebel or Imp mission. All resists should be the same. I can understand how you thought they had to all be uber resists because its scary to see everything 60k ham + with medium armor. But this Corvette would be almost impossible if the resists were 95% on everything.
Ok even if there is no difference etween the reb missions and theimp missions(which I am not completely sure of yet. you imply that it should be the same but the act 3 missions were not the same for imps and rebs so it cannot be assumed) the fact is that every mob has a very high resist to kinetic vs other attacks which make them all essentially anti-TKA. Your last sentence here is a bit confusing to me as it seems you think that I said that all the resists were high but I am just talking about the kinetic which would not make it impossible for anyone but a TKA which was my point.
As far as saying I didn't hit things for 1-1.5k, I did against the 50-60% mobs. Past that, with the Super Battle Droids, ya those I was scratching for like 300-400. Keep in mind they are supposed to be strong against the kinetic attacks, you need a BH or Pikeman to attack the droids for the real damage. oh and my VK's stats are in the 200's.
Even with 200 dam VKs that is alot of damage considering it is effectively less than 1/4 your normal damage (making your damage about 6k before armor and resists).
Lastly, I just finished the entire Corvette yesterday with no one dying, only one incap, and with TEN mins to spare. Not only did we finsh the assassin mission, we killed everything in the Vette. Our group was the best I have ever seen. We were all experienced players that new what to do. 4 MTK, 1 BH, 1 Doc, 1 Swordsman, and 3 dark Jedi. Ya I know, we had Jedi. Yes that made it easier but even they admitted this was the first time no one died in their group. They were shocked we finished with 10 mins to spare. It just goes to show you if you get the right group and that has enough experience you can do fine in the Vette. btw, if there were no Jedi in our group the only thing we would have had trouble with was the Super Battle Droids, after all that is what killed my first group and we were killing everything up till then.
Yes it is simple to do with the right group. I was just saying that a TKM really has no purpose in the group when it doesnt really do much in the group except be a meatshield. And a poor meatshield at that. My point is that the dungeon would be much better suited to stop the FOTM people from just going to whatever the mobs have the least resist in if the high resists were spread out instead of just gimping one attack type.
Roishin wrote:
OH NO! NOW U KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO BE A COMMANDO!!!!
Actually no you guys are gimped big time.I am just talking about the vette for TKAs. Only pikemen really know what its like to be a commando. Maybe pistoleers but not as much. lol
Message Edited by Log1c on 04-18-2004 07:02 AM
Duckfat wrote:
Laeren wrote:
Duckfat wrote:
In addition melee can usually count on using high kinetic layered armor but now that they no longer fight back with melee you are usually taking about 30-50% more damage depending on your armor base effectiveness vs the layered resist.
So get some new armor then. And use a PSG.
On a side note, is all the blaster damage on the vette's energy? ordo they do any other damage type too, like heat?
Yeah I do use a PSG and synthsteak and I would get better armor if there were any.
Get out the PvP anti-rifleman Advanced Strafe/HeadShot3 armor
Laeren wrote:
Duckfat wrote:
Laeren wrote:
Duckfat wrote:
In addition melee can usually count on using high kinetic layered armor but now that they no longer fight back with melee you are usually taking about 30-50% more damage depending on your armor base effectiveness vs the layered resist.
So get some new armor then. And use a PSG.
On a side note, is all the blaster damage on the vette's energy? ordo they do any other damage type too, like heat?
Yeah I do use a PSG and synthsteak and I would get better armor if there were any.
I just meant don't count on your uber PvE kinetic armor when going there
LOL I guess you havent noticed my icon and my sig (hint: I am big and hairy and have as of yet one armor type that sucks which is why I use PSGs and synthsteak). Thus far wooks only have armor with a kinetic layer which is the equivalent to weak ubese (about 50% kinetic and 25% other) which means if I cant get them to go melee I take double damage which equals dead twice as fast and not a very good tank.
BTW did you check out that e11 he is using in the link I posted? That thing rips through my armor like a hot knife through butter.
Message Edited by Duckfat on 04-19-2004 05:29 PM