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Thread: How to beat a jedi in pvp
quitch wrote:
dont kd to start the duel, not the best time for it
say they aura right before fight. i armorbreak and then kd/bind/critical/flurry just to get there health down a slight bit but mainly to get their action down and fast. the more misses = the less you have to heal and the more they waste action. so yea flurry might seem like a waste but to me its useful at beggining of fight.
Message Edited by TarqEmeril on 08-17-2005 12:26 AM
Riemei wrote:
Yes, I've beatenJedi on a couple ofoccasions as well, butmostlybecause of their mistakes or even sheer luck. Logistically, it should beimpossible formostany TKM template to defeat a full-templated Jedi with, say, enhancement 3xx2, healing 4xxx,saber 0404 and mdef. They have all the advantages:innate armour superior to ours, avoid incap,a combat speed buff equivalent to adrenal boost, a guaranteed 1500 point heal that can be used at will even through KD, an icob with no warmup, an armour break superior to what we get from dabbling in swordsman, a ranged knockdown, a root, a snare...
It is not impossible, even logically. You forget they have one, big disadvantage. A force pool! With doc 4004, I can heal for around 1500. So Im not hitting them as hard, big deal. All I have to do is stay alive and make them heal occasionally, and they will be out of force in no time. Once they reach about 1/4 force pool (I have to roughly estimate), I begin my assualt. Taking them by surprise, they are caught constantly healing and trying to apply enhancements. Usually within seconds they are on their back, AB'd, and dead shortly afterwards. In mass PvP, apply an AB or KD's you can. Heal any teammates that are incapped.
deathstruck-reaper wrote:
i have to agree with that last post, someone said to me if you go trying to take a jedis health bar chances are you will lose the key is it to try and diminish the force pool which with the right foods, good stimpack use and healing effectively you should have np
part of diminishing their force is to force them to heal
I have learned that beatign jedi in pvp, especially a full temp is possible, but only if the jedi has worse equipment than you. Becasue of how jedi is structured, they can get the best moves of our proffessions with less skill points spent. The way to beat them is really through swordsman, you need the high damage Power Hammers and you also need Headhit, Sword Flurry helps but when you have to use it, you are already most likely dead.
The Real danger from a jedi is when he starts to go into damage overdrive, if you hold off the heal, just make sure Cob is running, you can stay on a even level with them, the second they get you healing, and the second they begin to just damage, you are dead. Jedi have hit me with over 1200 damage a hit. When they do that, you are dead. So you have to keep offensive, using moves like Sword Flurry to deal damage while holding them back.
Their template matters alot too, a MLS with very good equipment, I theorise is nearly impossible to defeat, especially if they coupled it with Mdef. Should you run into one of these, my best advice is to run into a river. Should you hit a mixed Ls, i.e. x4x4, you stand a fairly good chance. Mpowers/Menhancer is an odd temp becasue very few use it well, just high damage and COB and you should be fine.
laz_souto wrote:
I have learned that beatign jedi in pvp, especially a full temp is possible, but only if the jedi has worse equipment than you. Becasue of how jedi is structured, they can get the best moves of our proffessions with less skill points spent. The way to beat them is really through swordsman, you need the high damage Power Hammers and you also need Headhit, Sword Flurry helps but when you have to use it, you are already most likely dead.
The Real danger from a jedi is when he starts to go into damage overdrive, if you hold off the heal, just make sure Cob is running, you can stay on a even level with them, the second they get you healing, and the second they begin to just damage, you are dead. Jedi have hit me with over 1200 damage a hit. When they do that, you are dead. So you have to keep offensive, using moves like Sword Flurry to deal damage while holding them back.
Their template matters alot too, a MLS with very good equipment, I theorise is nearly impossible to defeat, especially if they coupled it with Mdef. Should you run into one of these, my best advice is to run into a river. Should you hit a mixed Ls, i.e. x4x4, you stand a fairly good chance. Mpowers/Menhancer is an odd temp becasue very few use it well, just high damage and COB and you should be fine.
yep, pre-cu uber saber with MLS hard to beat, but you get them to heal first, you have a chance.
You can just grind there force out like that, also throw in a couple of blinds/dizzies if you have em as well as a few high damage attacks on the off chance you can catch em out.
quitch wrote:
dont kd to start the duel, not the best time for it
not true. ab/kd off the bat, if you have a speed sliced/pup'd katarn, means a constant nonstop heal-loop for a jedi (unless they're mdef) with my speed/damage on my katarn, I get them to 1/3 life by the time they get back up, and I can continue that damage output, but thats just me. I fight finished template jedi/knights every day
XTvrnal wrote:
quitch wrote:
dont kd to start the duel, not the best time for it
not true. ab/kd off the bat, if you have a speed sliced/pup'd katarn, means a constant nonstop heal-loop for a jedi (unless they're mdef) with my speed/damage on my katarn, I get them to 1/3 life by the time they get back up, and I can continue that damage output, but thats just me. I fight finished template jedi/knights every day
if you wait a little more for the KD, then they will get closer to 0 HP, and heal even more often
quitch wrote:
TarqEmeril wrote:
btw ive beaten every pvpr on my server 1 on 1 except for 3 different jedi,
im calling bs on that
your calling bs? later tonight after i finish up my last duels go ask on the tarq forums. btw i narrowed that number to 2 jedi last night.
Message Edited by TarqEmeril on 08-23-2005 03:40 PM
TarqEmeril wrote:
quitch wrote:
TarqEmeril wrote:
btw ive beaten every pvpr on my server 1 on 1 except for 3 different jedi,
im calling bs on that
your calling bs? later tonight after i finish up my last duels go ask on the tarq forums. btw i narrowed that number to 2 jedi last night.