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Thread: Teras Kasi.... and droids?
Also these droids would prevent you from wasting time in a fight now thatthe 'heal' delay is in full effect. If you are a TKM/Doc you could havea droid around that will cure states/bleeds/poisons/diseases and not require you to do it yourself thus allowing you to continue to fight.Message Edited by xtxShifter on 11-18-2004 08:04 PM
xtxShifter wrote:
Something to enhance all meditation based abilities would be handy.
How about a sparring droid that allows a Teras Kasi Artist to temporarily increase his combat abilities by training with it? Remember the training droid with all the arms and blades from the original Dune movie?
Message Edited by xtxShifter on 11-18-2004 08:04 PM
Myr-Dinn wrote:
xtxShifter wrote:
Something to enhance all meditation based abilities would be handy.
How about a sparring droid that allows a Teras Kasi Artist to temporarily increase his combat abilities by training with it? Remember the training droid with all the arms and blades from the original Dune movie?
Message Edited by xtxShifter on 11-18-2004 08:04 PM
ooOOoooo
I like this!
Instead of another meditation or addition to one, a focus buff for a hour or so if you fight one of the little combateer droids... sharpening of theattention sort of affair. Maybe a random amount of buff, due to the tka's skill, and how well the droid was made?
This route, it can be made like the survey/bh droids, ie, it has "charges" and you will lose one per use... shouldn't make the entertainers too upset, if it'll stack with their buffs.
id make it more of buff to "center of being" rather than a buff to a pool.
and for the most part tkm doesnt need a droid...it will die way before i do...besides like some1 pointed out...i only use mine for storage and energy damage while *I* tank the mob.
and dont see how a droid can help us powerboost or increase our meditative abilities...i wouldnt mind seeing a med droid that could cure my states that id have to goto a doc to get recharges for tho...but that cuts docs out of the group then and we become more self-contained.
*shrug* overall we dont need droids...anything a droid gives us...pushes more away from interdependancy with other chars.
could always make a droid that temporarily makes our vks elec damagae or something lol
Droids and TK have absolutly nothing to do with eachother
Right now it seams like a walking rationalization to make TK better for the players that are too lazy to learn how to fight.
Just because somthing is cool and makes tk more effective in combat dosnt mean it makes sense.
I'm open to listen to all ideas and wiegh them appropriatly including all professions and contexts with in the game, but
" I think having a droid that makes power boost more effective or meditating more effective"
Provides no rationale on why it should be implemented.
Can droids be incoprorated ? Sure
But if that is sole rationale of why , I want to be able to fly , breath fire and poop deathstars.
Just my two credits
Flatlinedmemory wrote:
Ummm. In my opinion this is the worst idea ever
Droids and TK have absolutly nothing to do with eachother
Why did Scouts and Rangers get droids to help them harvest, who says that droids are/arn't supposed to be apart of their profession.
Right now it seams like a walking rationalization to make TK better for the players that are too lazy to learn how to fight.
I'm not so sure the idea behind the original post is to make things easier for the "lazy" TKA's . I'm pretty sure that the reason behind the question was not so much to benifit us, but to benifit the droid engineers as their profession is in bad shape and ours isn't.
Just because somthing is cool and makes tk more effective in combat dosnt mean it makes sense.
I'm open to listen to all ideas and wiegh them appropriatly including all professions and contexts with in the game, but
" I think having a droid that makes power boost more effective or meditating more effective"
Provides no rationale on why it should be implemented.
Can droids be incoprorated ? Sure
Once again, why increase the amount of meat/hide/bone a droid allows a Ranger/Scout to harvest. The rationale is simply because it benifits the Scout/Ranger/Droid Engineer professions, and because of that sole reason it is implemented. Personally I think the reason is more than adequate. The only problem I see with the idea is that there's no downfall from using the droid to counterbalance the benifit.
But if that is sole rationale of why , I want to be able to fly , breath fire and poop deathstars.
Just my two credits
"Why did Scouts and Rangers get droids to help them harvest, who says that droids are/arn't supposed to be apart of their profession."
Hunters will often travel with dogs in real life as helpers, for things like finding, flushing out, and retrieving game. It's natural for a droid to perform that role, in fact harvesting droids are basically a retriever dog in robotic form (I have a harvesting R2 droid on my scout character that I named "Rover"). Other professions like crafters and medics rely on devices to perform their duties, so again it's natural for them to have a droid assistant (even the movies show medical droids like FX-7 and 2-1B). There is no clear reason why a TKA, or really any combat profession for that matter, might benefit from using a droid (other than a combat droid of course).
"Once again, why increase the amount of meat/hide/bone a droid allows a Ranger/Scout to harvest. The rationale is simply because it benifits the Scout/Ranger/Droid Engineer professions, and because of that sole reason it is implemented. Personally I think the reason is more than adequate. The only problem I see with the idea is that there's no downfall from using the droid to counterbalance the benifit."
There is a downside to using a droid though. You have to first purchase that droid, which brings an initial cost, and then there are costs to repair the droid if it is damaged (which is rare but it can happen). Also, droids require batteries which run out, so there are always maintenance costs with any droid. So the cost and hassle of managing a droid are its downsides (by hassle, I mean making sure you always have a battery in case the droid runs out, or remember droid commands, or programming the droid in the first place, or having the droid get stuck while traveling).
I don't like the idea of a droid enhancing TKA meditation abilities (whether it is through a stronger Powerboost, or faster wound healing) because it doesn't seem right to augment a mystical/natural ability with technology. It seems anathema to the TKA profession.
I can't think of a specific role a droid could offer TKAs, but there might be duties a droid could offer players in general. How about using a protocol droid to lower costs from NPCs due to its negotiation abilities? Like, you could have a protocol droid give a 10% discount to faction prices, or it could make starship chassis purchases cheaper. Or how about a droid that will store your clone data for you, meaning you don't have to visit a cloner when visiting a new area? (It would still cost the same amount of money, but would save you time.)
Atama wrote:
"Why did Scouts and Rangers get droids to help them harvest, who says that droids are/arn't supposed to be apart of their profession."
Hunters will often travel with dogs in real life as helpers, for things like finding, flushing out, and retrieving game. It's natural for a droid to perform that role, in fact harvesting droids are basically a retriever dog in robotic form (I have a harvesting R2 droid on my scout character that I named "Rover"). Other professions like crafters and medics rely on devices to perform their duties, so again it's natural for them to have a droid assistant (even the movies show medical droids like FX-7 and 2-1B). There is no clear reason why a TKA, or really any combat profession for that matter, might benefit from using a droid (other than a combat droid of course).
There's problem that occurs when you real real life to the game the big problem here is that the droid gives you a benefit to harvesting. It allows you to harvest a % more than you are normally able to. That's the big draw for most people who purchase these droids.You can'tget you more meat from a duck when your dog brings it back.
"Once again, why increase the amount of meat/hide/bone a droid allows a Ranger/Scout to harvest. The rationale is simply because it benifits the Scout/Ranger/Droid Engineer professions, and because of that sole reason it is implemented. Personally I think the reason is more than adequate. The only problem I see with the idea is that there's no downfall from using the droid to counterbalance the benifit."
There is a downside to using a droid though. You have to first purchase that droid, which brings an initial cost, and then there are costs to repair the droid if it is damaged (which is rare but it can happen). Also, droids require batteries which run out, so there are always maintenance costs with any droid. So the cost and hassle of managing a droid are its downsides (by hassle, I mean making sure you always have a battery in case the droid runs out, or remember droid commands, or programming the droid in the first place, or having the droid get stuck while traveling).
I should of explained what I meant by downside. Those downsides you mentioned are apart of the use of every droid, but when I talk of balancing (continuing to use the harvesting droid as my example), using the harvesting droid provides a decrease in XP per harvest for more units per harvets.
I don't like the idea of a droid enhancing TKA meditation abilities (whether it is through a stronger Powerboost, or faster wound healing) because it doesn't seem right to augment a mystical/natural ability with technology. It seems anathema to the TKA profession.
I can understand why you'd have a problem here. To me it seemed like the most reasonable place for a droid to take part in the TKA profession. It may not be "right" to augment ability through technology but it exists in other aspects of the game as well as RL(now I made a RL comparison). Now I have to go look up anathema
I can't think of a specific role a droid could offer TKAs, but there might be duties a droid could offer players in general. How about using a protocol droid to lower costs from NPCs due to its negotiation abilities? Like, you could have a protocol droid give a 10% discount to faction prices, or it could make starship chassis purchases cheaper. Or how about a droid that will store your clone data for you, meaning you don't have to visit a cloner when visiting a new area? (It would still cost the same amount of money, but would save you time.)
Message Edited by DireBountyHunter on 11-21-2004 01:24 AM
Saying TK should have a droid to enhance meditate is like saying a Jedi should have droids to use force powers
"There's problem that occurs when you real real life to the game the big problem here is that the droid gives you a benefit to harvesting. It allows you to harvest a % more than you are normally able to. That's the big draw for most people who purchase these droids. You can't get you more meat from a duck when your dog brings it back. There's problem that occurs when you real real life to the game the big problem here is that the droid gives you a benefit to harvesting. It allows you to harvest a % more than you are normally able to. That's the big draw for most people who purchase these droids. You can't get you more meat from a duck when your dog brings it back."
That's not a problem. They took the basic premise of a hunting dog, applied it to a droid, then tweaked it a little to fit with the scout profession better. I think it works great, I love my scout droid.
My big draw for buying my scout droid wasn't the bonus to harvesting (which isn't that high anyways), it's the convenience of having my droid run around and harvest for me. See, my scout character uses rifles and I usually kill animals before they even get close to me. Rover runs up and harvests them for me, even in the middle of battle.
Let me put it another way... If a droid only gave a bonus to harvesting, and didn't do anything else (like harvest things for you) I would never have bothered to buy one.
"I can understand why you'd have a problem here. To me it seemed like the most reasonable place for a droid to take part in the TKA profession. It may not be "right" to augment ability through technology but it exists in other aspects of the game as well as RL(now I made a RL comparison). Now I have to go look up anathema"
Sorry, "anathema" is something you're violently opposed to because it's just "wrong". For example, it's anathema to a rich person to beg for change on the street, or it's anathema for a punk band to play at a retirement home. I know "anathema" is a word people don't use often.