Teras Kasi Archive

Thread: rediculous, what is with the new idea that tka are jedi, or on par with?

Jenky
Sun May 09, 2004 8:09 am
#14

NP mate


It's just that the TKA community is going very low right now. Our corrospont is away, and suddenly a new one is needed, without a word from Jerad....


Many of us, are also tired of the "Nerf cries" Against us! Discussion on this board, is now mostly about giving everyone meditate, because TKA is overpowered and all that kind of stuff.


Do not feeel anger towards the other TKAs, mate We are just paranoid right now!



Take it easy



-Jenky





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atone48732
Sun May 09, 2004 11:48 am
#15

TKA is just a martial art in the Star Wars galaxy


The books that it is mentioned seem to point towards that



I feel that(from the books that I have read that mention it) is that TKA is probably just one of many martial arts forms in the galaxy.. But thats just me





Oelos Takushi: smuggler proud member of Oi and Smugglers alliance pilot..

Elalia Takushi: Dancer and rebel pilot and member of Oi
bring back TEras Kasi and the melee profs as expertise skills.. bring some fun and real diversification to SWG
Jenky
Sun May 09, 2004 12:57 pm
#16

Yes, you are right. Teras kasi don't deserve content that it's fellow brawler classes does not have.



I think that people simply want alternatives!



If you ask me, the road to Bounty Hunter is ridicolous! I thought one of the keyaspect of this game, was to get your own template and create a character with possibilities for uniqe skills..



Bounty Hunter just leaves room for full armored, compsite weilding LLC people.. No disrespect to BH,s they are cool - But the requirements are way to high...


Many in the brawler community have always wanted an master brawler class like Assasin, that culd function as a spiritual and practical hunting-a-target class..



All the jedi talk, is simply information from the EU! I have been a TKM twice, in a period of 4-6 months, and it is my all time favorite proffesion.. And im going there right now as we speak... But many of us feel frustrated, because we dont know our role...


Many people is just dabbling in TKA for meditate or defenses and the rest just want our, in some ways superiorcy when combined with other proffesions....


Even the tka trainers, give clues about TKA being a more than a martial rts.. a way of life.. And many people like the fact about there were other kinds of force people in the world.. Not just force users, who were neither jedi nor sith, or nightsisters..


It is talked about that darth maul was a Teras kasi also...



You should really read it all on www.teraskasi.com - great site!



Many people also think that the new force sensitivty skills system, that will enhance peoples current proffesions, would be a great addon to tka... tkas wants different styles, as well as a dark or light version of themself... or some people want that!


In my own opinion i also just see lots of potential in a teras kasi quests..


If they made master brawler and master scount a requirement, for becoming a tka who could hunt jedi, then i would still go TKA any seconds!


I know it might sound, stupid, but I just really like TKA for what it is! Almost every single animation, almost every single title and every single talking about us in the game and the EU, but if we had some more depth, and stood out as more than a martial arts, then I would love TKA ten times as much


-Jenky





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Regarding Star Wars Episode III: "Right or wrong this is my movie, this is my decision, and this is my creative vision, and if people don't like it, they don't have to see it." -George Lucas

"What we do in life, echos in Eternity" - Gladiator
Dravenite83
Sun May 09, 2004 1:28 pm
#17

Actually TK is an Order. Not just a martial art. That would be like saying Shaolin Monks were just martial artists. Their is a belief and a reasoning behind their style. A true TK is more than simply skilled at kicking and punching it is a way of life and a point of view.


Also TK are refered to as using the Force from within rather than the Force that surrounds them. I have also read on several websites, I know not canon but it is still out there, that they can sense changes around them and sense Jedi. It is EU canon however that they are watchers of the Jedi as Jedi destroyed the home world of the original masters.


If you want to know about general Martial arts look into Echani, a style that the red guards of the emporer were trained in, and Wrooshi, a wookie martial art. There are also others. In my opinion if we want TK elevated to BH like levels then that is fine, lets change it up. Have the current TK tree be say Echani mastery and then have us have to go on to master TK as a seperate profession.


EcadMistflier
Mon May 10, 2004 10:07 am
#18






saladin123 wrote:

I just want to know why the sudden interest in this. Ive seen so many posts about tka orders and such. Why should tka, which costs a fraction of the work and 92 skill points when compared to jedi get these sort of perks? It should be treated like every other prof. Also, with hunting jedi, bh are the only people which are meant to do that in this game. If that is given to other profs like tka than all that is special to bounty hunter, which costs more than twice the skillpoints will be taken away. Maybe if tka was unlockable and took months to get than sure. But defenetly not as it is now.






Yeah you're right. TK's are way to classy to sink to the level of the "jedi" as they are manifested in SWG. Who wants to be a shallow,self absorbed, S### talking, "uber" wack anyway? Thanks for pointing that out.



Ecad Mistflier
Force Wielder and Old School Disturber of the Peace
:: Ex Master Smuggler :: DEC 15 = BYE BYE SoE :: Ex SWG Jedi ::

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josfe
Mon May 10, 2004 1:01 pm
#19




Why should tka, which costs a fraction of the work and 92 skill points when compared to jedi get these sort of perks?




I believe the question you should be asking is "Why should jedi be the only intresting profession in this game?". Each and every one of us pays our $14.99/mo fee in the hopes of being immersed in the StarWars universe. Sure Jedi are a part of that universe but they shouldn't be the only profession in the game with intresting story lines, quests, and a real feeling like your part of the profession and not just some generic combatant/crafter.


I like the new jedi changes comming and I think it'll make the game more intresting when they come about. However I'd also like to walk into a bar and have the NPC's in the bar react to me in a similar way that some NPC's react to jedi.


A Criminal Says: "Hey you bantha breath! You'd better get outta my face before I re-arrange yours."
A Bartender Says to A Criminal : "You'd better back off there buddy, there will be no fighting in my bar! I don't want this TKA Master to leave a pool of blood on the floor where you stand."


We also want quests to make us feel as though we are part of the secret Teras Kasi Order, it's no different than some of the smugglers wanting to be a part of Black Sun or similar criminal organizations.


Your statement seems to reflect that you think people should need to spend more skill points in order to have a more immersive gaming experiance. And quite frankly I don't believe that skill points have anything to do with the immersiveness of the game. In the next couple patches jedi are going to have the most immersive gaming experiances in SWG, and it's honestly unfair to the rest of the community to neglect the numerous professions which form the core of the games player based economy and PvP system.


saladin123
Mon May 10, 2004 2:47 pm
#20

I dont really mean skill points, just amount of time. TKA can be mastered in days. Sure, holo grinding is easy, but it does take a while.



Havarian
Master Pirate

Naele
Mon May 10, 2004 2:55 pm
#21



Dravenite83 wrote:

Actually TK is an Order. Not just a martial art. That would be like saying Shaolin Monks were just martial artists. Their is a belief and a reasoning behind their style. A true TK is more than simply skilled at kicking and punching it is a way of life and a point of view.

Also TK are refered to as using the Force from within rather than the Force that surrounds them. I have also read on several websites, I know not canon but it is still out there, that they can sense changes around them and sense Jedi. It is EU canon however that they are watchers of the Jedi as Jedi destroyed the home world of the original masters.

If you want to know about general Martial arts look into Echani, a style that the red guards of the emporer were trained in, and Wrooshi, a wookie martial art. There are also others. In my opinion if we want TK elevated to BH like levels then that is fine, lets change it up. Have the current TK tree be say Echani mastery and then have us have to go on to master TK as a seperate profession.






wrong, Teras Kasi isn't an order. There is no canon source to support that statement. Teras Kasi is only one of the many martial arts present in the SW galaxy.
JWlaxplyr7
Mon May 10, 2004 4:11 pm
#22

Teras Kasi are a martial art devoted to policing and controlling dark jedi, that is their definition to some degree, they are almost opposites to jedi in some degree; where jedi use the force or the essenc of life all around them Teras Kasi center their focus inwards, for more info which is almost all canon this link is great, and is alsoa great read too http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=teras_kasi_artist&message.id=44795im no expert but thats what ive gathered, please correct me if im wrong

tiberian_death
Mon May 10, 2004 4:56 pm
#23





jenky, I like your replies because you are not being an **edit** like some of the other people saying "tr0LL Al3rt!" .

I think im going to check out that website now . But AS THIS GAME STANDS NOW no prof that costs 92 skill points should have the same perks as jedi and bounty hunter which cost more.






And many of us here totally agree with you. A good amount of the people on this forum love TKA and would spend all their skill points into it. We would like the idea of having a dark side and light side to TKA and the ability to keep Jedi's in check...so for instance a light side TKA would hunt down a Jedi who left the light for the dark and vice versa for a dark side TKA. This would be sweet because it would add more to our profession and in addition help keep Jedis in check. It would be different then BH because BH can get a bounty on any Jedi and they get paid, but we would only be able to hunt downdifferent sidedjedis and wouldn't get paid because its part of our duty to do it and not how we make a living.


Could this be seen as taking away from BH, somewhat but I also believe they need a lot morecontent and love, and would be sweet if they could get player bounties on smugglers and I personally think it would be cool ifthey could even collect bounties from certain Criminal NPCs, ie they go to the Hutts and the Hutts give out hits on people with -5000 in their fraction. Now to ensure people don't keep getting hits on them because they can't do anything to get their faction back in the positive without going negative in another, once a bounty is carried out and is successful their fraction is set back to zero for that one fraction. But I'm getting off subject so yes we just want more content and feel a greater role in the game. If we have to spend more points then most of us would be glad too and feel that it can be an end of the cut mold TKA the game as right now.


Maller Malice

Former Mayor of New Aldera

Recruiter of New Aldera

Proud TKM


Edited because of spelling error, hehe.

Message Edited by tiberian_death on 05-10-2004 07:54 PM



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JWlaxplyr7
Mon May 10, 2004 5:13 pm
#24

Onix
Mon May 10, 2004 5:44 pm
#25


From the first chapter of Star Wars: Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter (2001. Michael Reaves):



"Using the momentum of the forward thrust, Maul dived over the collapsing droid before him, flowing smoothly into a shoulder roll. He came up twirling his lightsaber overhead, then stepped down solidly into the teräs käsi wide stance called Riding Bantha. Even as he did the movement, part of him was monitoring his body's state. His breathing was slow and even, his pulse elevated by no more than two or three beats per minute from its resting rate."


Although Teräs Käsi is not mentioned In The Phantom Menace (1999), Darth Maul's acrobatic fighting style may have influenced Michael Reeves to write Maul in as a Teräs Käsi expert in DMSH, but it's a guess whether Lucas was influenced by previous descriptions of Teräs Käsi in his characterization of Darth Maul.


Not that this list below is complete, but the timeline here should give you an idea of how Teräs Käsi came to be part of the Star Wars universe:






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atone48732
Mon May 10, 2004 5:52 pm
#26

Thank you onix


Finally something that prooves Teras Kasi is just a martial art



This debate has been going on since August at least. I just wish it would go away





Oelos Takushi: smuggler proud member of Oi and Smugglers alliance pilot..

Elalia Takushi: Dancer and rebel pilot and member of Oi
bring back TEras Kasi and the melee profs as expertise skills.. bring some fun and real diversification to SWG
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