Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: How do you like being the only working combat class? (post-patch)
ArkMindSpear wrote:
The range on the Vibro Knuckler is now farther than the Long Vibro Axe, and Vibro Lance. Also, i am unarmed Lv3, and since the newest patch The Vibro Knuckler has gone from doing about ten less damage than unarmed at 4X the speed to doing about 4X the damage at 4X the speed, even though it sayis i amuncertified to use it, i think it acts like i am....
I am about 150EXP away form master pikeman and i was beaten erlier today by a novice TKA becouse her defense was so much higher than mine that she did more damage to me each hit, than i did to her each hit, and she did it 3X faster and i mised 50% of the time, and any special move i try to do costs 150-300HAM....
and knockdown.....oh god, knockdown,.....this is good for everyone, perma-knockdown....
YOU GUYS......are sitting pretty
not that i don't want to take your word for it, but your going to have to prove this. right now just by what you said, im still not buying that vibro knuckles have more range then pikemen.
easy to test, simply equipt any pike weapon or 2handed sword, btw i believe pikes have an exstended range on swords, and swords on fencing, and fencing on unarmed.
get a max range, you will need a ch pet or another person to test this. your range should be around 10m. check it out with the distance meters, then switch to unarmed.
as it stands right now unarmed and vibros are the same range. they increase to range on vibros was to bring it up to match the range of unarmed w/o vks. it was previously 5m uanrmed 3m vks.
another test that would help your case more would be dmg and ham cost tests. I have presented this comunity comparisons for UH3 UH2 and KD2 both dmg and ham costs and their averages. It would help back your statment farther, if you provide some evidence.
just a few things......we have the most defense to blind, but we have -54/-54/-54 on our weapons, we are perma-blind.....
and the guy who said bountyhunters do some 400 damage to them selves in 2 seconds. doing 2 shots in a row....lemmie ask ya this. Do you MISS those shots? would you be pissed if a move that cost THAT much HAM missed 5 times in a row? Couse I do it every day, over and over.
PLUS! There is NO pikeman move that costs less than 180HAM......Some go over 300HAM costs.....that is no matter WHAT move we use, can you claim the same thing?
defenses, pikeman should do more damage to tka per hit than tka do to them, My Long Vibro Axe's stats are 131-488......my friends knucler is abour 130-170.......we both do about 45 damage to eachother per hit in PvP, except i miss consistantly.
You people don't seem to understand, and i guess you never will, it isn't one thing that makes pikeman terrible. I could live with terrible accuracy, i could live with terrible HAM costs, i could Live with slow speeds, i could live with Horrible defenses, i could live with not having supportive poweres like meditate, or my range being less than a a TKA's.
But WE cannot live with all of those things stacked on one another, don't you get it? I could list one hundred things wrong with my class and you would nit-pick over 2 or 3 of them and call my post unfounded.
Please....stop and THINK about what all these negative effects would do to you before you bash me once more. What if YOU were blinded all the time and took about 3X the damage you currently do? And Every time you used one of your special moves you took about 200 some damage?
And i am not here to bash TKA i say once more. I educate, it is the only way we learn.
[quote]It is funny that there are two posts, here on the front page, talking about damage after the patch. You are telling us that unarmed damage went up 15%, and another guy is tell us that except against armored NPC, his damage has gone down by about 50%. [/quote]
Based on my observations: Standard damage has been reduced (about 30-40%), while damage for special moves was increased (about 10-12%). Considering the fact that you still can't 'spam' special moves (because of the famout TKA all-stat HAM costs), we 'break even' with regard to damage output post-patch.
alphaforge wrote:
Winners please leave me alone. I'm sick of this petty crap. I don't have time for this unconstructive gargabe.
Yet you delightfully graced us with your pressence.....go away troll, there's nothing you could possibly say that would refute the fact that Teras Kasi is the most godly class in the game, it always was, this patch just made them even more so. (and if anyone says that commando was the most godly you obviously don't have KD2)
pikemen need help and buffs. but me saying that here means JS.
comparing the class's just causes flame wars, doesn't resolve anything. if you nerf tka, they are not even int he running vs other combat class's, and tka still has work to be done about it.
pikemen aren't really in the race at all atm, but that isn't tks fault. you guys got corespondants, although it seems like no one is paying you attention, there really is nothing else you can do except keep at it on your forums and on the dev boards.