Teras Kasi Archive

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Atama wrote:

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"I am a TK-CM and as I get more and more into PvPing I realize that many many people have meditate as a skill regardless of profession. Pistoleers, Carabine, sword, polearm, you mention it have meditate. Its not that I dont want to share the skill with other Non-tk professions but why should they use it? They are not TK and it is a TK ability."

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100% wrong.

They are TKAs. You can't use meditate without being a TKA. They may not be masters, they may not run around using unarmed attacks exclusively, but they are Teras Kasi artists. You are *not* sharing it with a non-TK profession, you are sharing it with a fellow TKA.

By only learning a portion of the Teras Kasi arts, they only benefit from a small part of the abilities. They do not get the toughness when using a pistol, they can't use our special attacks when wielding a sword. In fact, they also don't meditate as well if they are not masters of TK. So don't feel cheated, if you are dedicated to the skills you will be better than them at them.

I'm not a dedicated pistoleer. I'm not a master fencer. I don't use a stun baton when I fight people, I don't get to use a DE-10, I rarely use any attacks other than my TKA abilities. But I'm a fencer and I'm a pistoleer none the less, and that is why I benefit from those professions as well as my Teras Kasi.

One of the greatest strengths of this game is the ability to create your own template, to pick and choose your skills to become whatever you want. Don't sneer at that, embrace it and enjoy it.

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i'm a master pistoleer, bhxx2x, and smuggler xx2x. I gave up the last 2 skills in each so i could have meditate4 and heal my wounds. I was a dedicated TKM for 8 months. And i'll be damned if anyone tells me it's wrong for me to have meditate4.....

Message Edited by atone48732 on 10-05-2004 11:08 AM

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Saborcoco wrote:

So......... What if..................if you are a Master Terakasi and Pistoleer (for example)you can do fanshot and eye shot wile unarmed, or if you were Swordman-Smuggler you could do Last DItch with the sword.... how would that be?......

Just as Fanshot is a pistol skill, and last ditch a smuggler abiity, Meditate is a TK ability. Isnt it? But instead of being limited to "UNARMED"people that have the TK skill, it is usable by any onethat has the TKskill REGARDLESS OF THE WEAPON YOUWIELD.

(NOTE: Im not saying you have to be TK, just unarmed as TKs have to be)

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as the above poster pointed out you are comparing apples to oranges.

meditate is NOT a combat skill. it goes far beyond a simple special. to make my point, try and meditate while in combat and see what happens...no matter WHAT weapon you are holding, or NOT holding for that matter.

meditate is a skill, a very special NON-combat skill that transends the weapon you have in your hand while you use it.

again i have to agree with the above poster re. the statement that it would be a waist of valuable and already over-taxed resources at SOE to implement a 'no weapons only' animation for meditate when there are FAR FAR FAR bigger issues, bugs, glitches and outright mistakes in the game.

i don't mean to sound like i am coming down on you, or that i am jumping down your throat. it is just that as a long time player (started on day two) i would like to see the larger issues with the classes, the combat system, the GCW, and the game dealt with before something like a change in the meditate animation requirements.

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Saborcoco wrote:

So......... What if..................if you are a Master Terakasi and Pistoleer (for example)you can do fanshot and eye shot wile unarmed, or if you were Swordman-Smuggler you could do Last DItch with the sword.... how would that be?......

Just as Fanshot is a pistol skill, and last ditch a smuggler abiity, Meditate is a TK ability. Isnt it? But instead of being limited to "UNARMED"people that have the TK skill, it is usable by any onethat has the TKskill REGARDLESS OF THE WEAPON YOUWIELD.

(NOTE: Im not saying you have to be TK, just unarmed as TKs have to be)

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Medatate is a static ability that is why they can use it it the same as getting novice medic to heal your self anad if you are unarmed you cant use fanshot are eye shot , they give skill point to make the char you like ,

you have much to learn in this game by your posts , but ill say this you can medatate with any weapon equiped but you can not use a combat ability from a profession like rifleman if you have a VK equiped and not a rifle , medatate is a good ability and you will find most peeps in the game have it regardless of there professions ,

dont judge them for what they are but be there actions

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"So......... What if..................if you are a Master Terakasi and Pistoleer (for example) you can do fanshot and eye shot wile unarmed, or if you were Swordman-Smuggler you could do Last DItch with the sword.... how would that be?......

Just as Fanshot is a pistol skill, and last ditch a smuggler abiity, Meditate is a TK ability. Isnt it? But instead of being limited to "UNARMED" people that have the TK skill, it is usable by any one that has the TK skill REGARDLESS OF THE WEAPON YOU WIELD.
(NOTE: Im not saying you have to be TK, just unarmed as TKs have to be)"

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Feign death is a smuggler ability, and smugglers use pistols as weapons. But I used to use feign death all the time when fighting unarmed back when I was TKA/smuggler.

I have a very high KD defense and posture change defense. Why? Because I get +50 to each from pistoleer. So I'm using pistoleer advantages as a TKA.

In fact, I think every single combat profession has something in it that can be utilized in another profession. If you're 4000 BH you can do bounties on players even with a VK in your hand. Even a commando, which probably has the most restrictive abilities in the game (all of their abilities revolve around their unique weapons) get defenses that stack with other professions.

Really, if you think about it, why should you be required to hold a certain weapon to meditate? How could holding a sword or a gun screw up the act of meditating?

i'm a master pistoleer, bhxx2x, and smuggler xx2x. I gave up the last 2 skills in each so i could have meditate4 and heal my wounds. I was a dedicated TKM for 8 months. And i'll be damned if anyone tells me it's wrong for me to have meditate4.....