Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: Food to eat!
Sovi-FFO
Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:11 pm
#14
2 brandies, a synthsteak, and thats about it, it saves room for other foods like Vercupti (1200 HAM buff) for emergencies, or sometimes I take a smuggler's delight (99% spice downtime reduction) which makes the downer on a muon literaly 3 seconds long
Message Edited by Sovi-FFO on 07-31-2004 12:12 AM
Knightcrest
Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:39 pm
#15
blaketheone wrote:
i take 2 brandy mine is 49 filling +431 for 41 minutes
44% damage reduction sythe steak
40% citris snow cake (to accuarcy)
and a ahisrha( +431 to focus) to use when i was my rifle
and a muon for emergencys
Just out of curisosity you have musician buffs? Are you in the backline in a group? Or are you eating some and stacking the rest later for one fight? Just curious as it sounds like a good mix of foods but my stomach is not that big....not to mention without musician buffs, ahrisa is much less useful than canape and to be honest I prefer canape for the regen cause I am taking damage and prefer regen to accuracy cause at master rifle it is good enough to wreak havoc.
If you have some suggestions.... lemme know, I would like to change the routine up a bit
Utess
Sat Jul 31, 2004 1:26 pm
#16
Swirls and Won Wons are the Action and Health versions of Canape. They are nice when you want to givea little extra boost to your buffs, but I mostly use them for when I am fighting against tough targets unbuffed.
My stats are geared towards being able to fight unbuffed with the assistance of foods. Buffs are not always a reliable thing on Test Center and you sometimes have to go a bit out of your way to get them. Plus I just enjoy the challenge of fighting unbuffed now and again
My stats are primaries all at 800 with secondaries all around the 500 mark. With two brandies my mind is ok for most things. Then I take a swirl, won won, and power boost. That buffs all my other stats by 400+ for 10 minutes. Giving me over 1k in every stat.
I usually then fill out the remaining space in my food stomach with whatever I think is appropriate that I can fit in. Usually its either a protein wafer for some minor synthsteak effects, or dodge food against ranged opponents(chef dodge food is different than the +dodge mod. It is a pure x% chance of an attack missing you for the duration of the food). Then if it is something really tough, I'll take a pixie before I fight too, thus buffing things even further.
In the end, that combination of foods gives you the equivilant of so-so non-master doc buffs to all your stats for 10 minutes. Which is more than enough for most situations.
Seph_Iroth
Sat Jul 31, 2004 2:09 pm
#17
IIVIIandrake wrote:HAAHahahhahaah Arihsa is better than canape?? Hello are you all there.Sure arihsa reduces you Mind cost for spamming specials for 41 mins but when your getting ganked in the mind which doyou want rediced specials for 41m? OR reduced mind cost for 10 mins and increased mind regen??Canpe effectes willpower as well... hahah gimme willpower and focus for 10 mins anyday. Obviously you have no idea how to cycle your foods properly.
playing this game for over a year, i know what im talking about. For the most part willpower will never be high enough to really matter. I take very little damage, so willpower is not going to make much of a difference. The only thing that really does tons of damage to me is a CM, and i dont care how much willpower you have the CM is going to win.
So now ask yourself, would you rather have a little extra willpower, a full stomach (leaving you with no focus or willpower for 20+ minutes), and die anyways or lots of focus for extended amount of time? Be smart, dont just run in and die like an idiot. I outlive my canape, making it useless to me. So why waste my stomach filling on it if im going to still be alive and fighting when it runs out?
Message Edited by Seph_Iroth on 07-31-2004 02:13 PM
BloodMonk
Sat Jul 31, 2004 2:59 pm
#18
one more think to mention: GLANDS!
kliknik glands is great for unbuffed fighting (lasts 4m and boost the first substat), kiwi glands are great when you're in a though spot (they boost the second substat), and need to regen fast.. kiwi only lasts one minute tho 
And these count as a spice....
Sly
Utess
Sat Jul 31, 2004 3:06 pm
#19
Seph_Iroth wrote:
IIVIIandrake wrote:
HAAHahahhahaah Arihsa is better than canape?? Hello are you all there.
Sure arihsa reduces you Mind cost for spamming specials for 41 mins but when your getting ganked in the mind which doyou want rediced specials for 41m? OR reduced mind cost for 10 mins and increased mind regen??
Canpe effectes willpower as well... hahah gimme willpower and focus for 10 mins anyday. Obviously you have no idea how to cycle your foods properly.
playing this game for over a year, i know what im talking about. For the most part willpower will never be high enough to really matter. I take very little damage, so willpower is not going to make much of a difference. The only thing that really does tons of damage to me is a CM, and i dont care how much willpower you have the CM is going to win.
So now ask yourself, would you rather have a little extra willpower, a full stomach (leaving you with no focus or willpower for 20+ minutes), and die anyways or lots of focus for extended amount of time? Be smart, dont just run in and die like an idiot. I outlive my canape, making it useless to me. So why waste my stomach filling on it if im going to still be alive and fighting when it runs out?
Message Edited by Seph_Iroth on 07-31-2004 02:13 PM
Depends on the situation, what you are facing, and the type of combat you are in. I definitely agree that for PvP when facing CMs right now, your focus is going to matter more to you. For PvE use or short term, non-cm PvP, canape might be a better option. The big thing here is you really shouldn't hold yourself to any one "formula" for food and spice use.
Look over the thread, see what other people use, and try them out to see what combinations work best for you and your play style. And always, always, try to have more than one option when fighting. The more options you give yourself, the better your chances of being able to adjust to any given situation and survive.
I think the one thing we can all agree on though, is that, regardless of the situation, mind buffing foods and items are our first concern no matter what they are. Everything else is justan extra bonus.
Seph_Iroth
Sat Jul 31, 2004 3:10 pm
#20
Utess wrote:
Seph_Iroth wrote:
IIVIIandrake wrote:HAAHahahhahaah Arihsa is better than canape?? Hello are you all there.Sure arihsa reduces you Mind cost for spamming specials for 41 mins but when your getting ganked in the mind which doyou want rediced specials for 41m? OR reduced mind cost for 10 mins and increased mind regen??Canpe effectes willpower as well... hahah gimme willpower and focus for 10 mins anyday. Obviously you have no idea how to cycle your foods properly.
playing this game for over a year, i know what im talking about. For the most part willpower will never be high enough to really matter. I take very little damage, so willpower is not going to make much of a difference. The only thing that really does tons of damage to me is a CM, and i dont care how much willpower you have the CM is going to win.
So now ask yourself, would you rather have a little extra willpower, a full stomach (leaving you with no focus or willpower for 20+ minutes), and die anyways or lots of focus for extended amount of time? Be smart, dont just run in and die like an idiot. I outlive my canape, making it useless to me. So why waste my stomach filling on it if im going to still be alive and fighting when it runs out?Message Edited by Seph_Iroth on 07-31-2004 02:13 PM
Depends on the situation, what you are facing, and the type of combat you are in. I definitely agree that for PvP when facing CMs right now, your focus is going to matter more to you. For PvE use or short term, non-cm PvP, canape might be a better option. The big thing here is you really shouldn't hold yourself to any one "formula" for food and spice use.
Look over the thread, see what other people use, and try them out to see what combinations work best for you and your play style. And always, always, try to have more than one option when fighting. The more options you give yourself, the better your chances of being able to adjust to any given situation and survive.
I think the one thing we can all agree on though, is that, regardless of the situation, mind buffing foods and items are our first concern no matter what they are. Everything else is just an extra bonus.
yep, you are right. while i hate canape i do have it with me. Mainly when im in large scale pvp i take 2 brandy, 2 ahrisa, and 1 synthsteak. that is around 40 minutes of high mind and no special costs, and about 35 attacks that do very very little damage. As my stomach empties i take more ahrisa if i need, or another synthsteak. Blue milk is great too.
BloodMonk
Sat Jul 31, 2004 3:34 pm
#21
it's ALL about choices, and taking the right ones to adapt to the current situation (did I mention I have ALL these foods hotkeyed?)
Sly
martinit
Sat Jul 31, 2004 3:46 pm
#22
Im having quite a bit of trouble finding the knockdown food on my server, and seeing a lot of jedi's seem to posture change / dizzy me im considering looking at other options.
Ive been toldthat 50% dodge food is not as good as it sounds
So im thinking of taking (im a tk);
25 Unarmed Dmg
25 Melee Defence
Burst Run (to catch the runners!)
(along with the usualsynth steak, brandys)
1. Do you think the melee defence food would help against Jedis lightsabers, assuming ive already reached my cap - 125 by skills, 150 with attachments. So with this food id hit 175 Melee Defence, would that prevent jedi's from hitting me a lot, in comparison to 150 defence, or do jedi's have insane accuracy that melee defence doesnt matter ?
2. Does melee defence stop specials, such as dizzy or posture change ?
Thanks again guys, appreciated.
Message Edited by martinit on 07-31-2004 03:57 PM
BloodMonk
Sat Jul 31, 2004 3:54 pm
#23
higher the melee defence = less chance for em to hit you
What food you should take depends on what tactics the jedi use...on my server they started targetting mind all the time, but before they did that I just got my mind subs to 1.8k (no hamcost) and took other food (dodge, synth,...)
I tend to use air cake more then pikkata pie, due to it being less filling... burnout sauce is especially good vs. jedi
Sly
Utess
Sat Jul 31, 2004 4:10 pm
#24
Melee and ranged defense boosts the chances of those attacks to outright miss you, thus the status effects miss you. Your secondary defenses like dodge let you avoid or lessen the damage but the status effects might still hit you.
Also, regarding Jedi, many, many of their saber specials have cone or area effects. Whether intentional or unintentional, if you are within the "blast range" of these attacks(24m) but *not* within melee range, you will get hit regardless by the area effect properties of the attack. In those situations, the only thing that will protect you from state attacks is your Def vs'.
As such, if you are fighting a Jedi, you either want to be greater than 24m from them, or right on top of them. Anything inbetween that is highly dangerous.
As for hotkeying foods, I don't tend to hotkey them myself, I find it too difficult for me to easily locate what I need in a hurry. But that's just me.
What I *do* do however, is, before I go to fight, open up my inventory, click change view to the description style, click "sort by type", then click change view again to switch back to the icon view.
What that will do is sort all your food/spices/weapons to the top or bottom of your inventory. That means, when I'm fighting, all I have to do is open up my inventory and all my food and weapons are right there for me to pick from. Then I just pick what I need and close up my inventory again.
That might not work for everyone, but its what works for me and my play style 
McFlyGuy
Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:06 pm
#25
I usually do..
Brandies 2x
Exo Protein Waffers. 5 filling 20-25 reduction lasts 20-23 attacks. Good for popping repeatedly
Burnout Sauce
Thakillo sp? Flopping up and down isn't fun...
That still leaves me with some stomach left over for more food.. Granted I have full mind buffs this is my setup otherwise I usually add some ahrisa's in there. 1k Focus is usually about 10 mind per special in full comp and with mindbuffs its nothing to worry about.
BloodMonk
Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:25 pm
#26
oh yea...gonna get a crate of Ithorian mist (def. vs. dizzy) to add to my collection...and check out the won won and the other stuff too (haven't seen it on my server tho)
Sly