Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: How do you beat a TKM/Doc
xTenkai
Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:18 am
#14
Rebel_elite wrote:
TheTwitch wrote:
Holy noob, batman!
If you cant beat a TKM/Doc, you should quit now, and never post again.
By this stupid remark most can tellyou don't knowwhat you're doing and that , being thati've got a 1600+ combat rating, played since beta I can assure you that the only immature fool on this thread is you. You being so blind; you don't evenknowunder what circumstances that the duel was taken place over. You know absolutely zeroabout the situations in which the duel was taken place. Its children like you who make these boards riddled with trolls. Here I am, asking a simple question and you decide to barge in and put you're irrelvant incorrect information. It's best for you to take you're own advice and never post in my threads again.....
lol noob. I can kill a freakin' Rifleman/CM using mind hit before his poisons and headshots drop me. And you can't kill someone that can cure dizzy? Twitch is right, quit and don't post.
yuda1122
Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:36 am
#15
I would have to moderately disagree with this...TK has the more toughness than any other profession...sure, fencers have more dodge, but once you get the states on you, you are kind of SOL because of weak damage. However with TK, you can put on every state, and your unarmed toughness will greatly decrease the damage done to you.
Bucke-Thead wrote:
Your fencer defences are far better than TK defences.
ShadowoftheVoid
Sun Nov 07, 2004 6:10 am
#16
ironically if they're a halfway decent player and they have been doc/tkm for awhile...and somethng other than twi...they'll have all their stats shifted to mind as best as possible...which means that with brandy or a music buff...it costs them effectively nothing to cure states and dots...let alone heals.
as for stun...forget it...with synth, 40%+ stun helm, and 60% odd stun PSG's you arent gonna dent him with even an ackley stun baton. which leaves you with either a ackley gaffi or tk...
between the foods you can take (mainly synth and brandy) and intim...you can pretty much reduce his damage down...if you need to make intim into a macro that either loops or does an alarm when its about to come off him...
and he cant heal or cure states on his back like a jedi...and he has no where near your def mods in that area either...so mix some dizzy hits in there to keep him on the ground or on his toes at least...since then you can us kd2 or lunge1 to drop him on his ass.
can use blind and stun as well...and even with havla thats time he isnt hitting you...same with any dots you can apply.
and use either combo1 or headhit...UH3 is worthless since it hits health/action primarily...and he can heal 3k in a shot with a stim3
and as a side note...i used to kill tkm' regulary as a doc/cm...so give them a little respect 
HouseSunstrider
Sun Nov 07, 2004 6:31 am
#17
dizzy then posture change attacks because they have barely any defence to that also constant intimidation on them.. If the doc is to fast at healing your dizzy then do nothing but mind hits from TKM
Rebel_elite
Sun Nov 07, 2004 3:14 pm
#18
Ending thread on account of me being blind and mad when I mad intial post
I was wearing only grinding composite (65% effectiveness) on only head and chest.....
I wasn't taking damage reduction food, or anti-dizzy food, using intimidate 2...
I corrected my own problem once i took a TKM/ Doc in a cnet gank in about 7 seconds...
archangel_kami
Sun Nov 07, 2004 3:36 pm
#19
just get 4/0/0/4 CM and poison his mind (andfocus if necesary), then target his mindand he will be pretty much usless at healing anything. LOL, i know u dont have CM, but if what u want is to beat a Doctor, or at least p#&$$ one off, then this is one of thebest ways to do it...
Mooglified
Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:41 pm
#20
xTenkai wrote:
Rebel_elite wrote:
TheTwitch wrote:
Holy noob, batman!
If you cant beat a TKM/Doc, you should quit now, and never post again.
By this stupid remark most can tellyou don't knowwhat you're doing and that , being thati've got a 1600+ combat rating, played since beta I can assure you that the only immature fool on this thread is you. You being so blind; you don't evenknowunder what circumstances that the duel was taken place over. You know absolutely zeroabout the situations in which the duel was taken place. Its children like you who make these boards riddled with trolls. Here I am, asking a simple question and you decide to barge in and put you're irrelvant incorrect information. It's best for you to take you're own advice and never post in my threads again.....
lol noob. I can kill a freakin' Rifleman/CM using mind hit before his poisons and headshots drop me. And you can't kill someone that can cure dizzy? Twitch is right, quit and don't post.
/shake /shake
jalexu
Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:39 am
#23
Although I hate to post this because I'm against dots, a lame tactic (effective though) is apply dot then warcry, rinse and repeat.
Pthdora
Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:45 am
#24
1. DIZZY STACKS....use KS/Dizzy and then WARCRY 2!!! he will lay there for 20 sec(average)...use headhit, and dizzy back to back, if he stands, KD/posture change him, keep him stacked, he will not be able to do crap about it(docs cant heal on their back) another good trick...apply multiple states to him...stun/dizzy/int/blind....Healstate packs are great but he cant heal crap if hes laying there..im tellin ya
comandobob
Mon Nov 08, 2004 7:14 am
#25
Rebel_elite wrote:
I've tried, and I've tried and I've tried some more.. I just can't beat a doc!!!!
I threw everything I had against him301-535 stun baton, all types of food, states, mind hits, but none of it is effective when a Doc can just heal their dizzy and then dizzy/KD you w/ their own attacks. I can't keep them done long enough to do any significant damage..
Im a Master TK, Master Fencer, Mbrawler, and nothing seems to work, usually, dots are against my policy, but dang, im going to have to shop for a new one!!
So, without dots, can you beat a Doc/TKM with this templete!!?!
Do the devs know of these ub3r leet (hehe)docs and will they be fixed in the combat rebalance?
Or should I just put a min damage pup on my baton!
Thanks in advance for help
ok when i was master TKM master fencer , i used to dizzy with fencer and lunge 2 them , then keep them dizzy and intemadated , stuned blind , and scatter hit are mind hit , but alway keep them on the ground are biggest weakness is dizzy so use it against them , i could kill a tkm doc easy this way as he just stayed on the ground if he got up dizzy again and lunge 2 him again
Loshuss
Mon Nov 08, 2004 8:08 am
#26
Lots of Docs/Whatever templates freak whenever they have a DOT on them and will stop attacking to heal it before it ticks out of the fear you have some looted insane weapon. Most of them generally stop and heal states whenever you land them as well. Knockdown attacks and lunge posture downs are on the 30 second timer, so they aren't super good considering he probably has a /stand /healstate dizzy macro.
Stun and Intimidate are your friends. I'd stick with Scatter Hit2 for damage dealing since you have a decent stick. If you do warcry him, it'll break as soon as you hit him. He shouldn't be able to touch you if you have decent armor and and thakatillo. Just keep forcing him to heal states.
If you start to get worn down, warcry2 till it sticks and run out of range. Regroup and get back in there. If he hits you with intimidate and stun, warcry and retreat.
You could always pickup Rifleman for the famed DXR6-B and smoke him with that.
Stun and Intimidate are your friends. I'd stick with Scatter Hit2 for damage dealing since you have a decent stick. If you do warcry him, it'll break as soon as you hit him. He shouldn't be able to touch you if you have decent armor and and thakatillo. Just keep forcing him to heal states.
If you start to get worn down, warcry2 till it sticks and run out of range. Regroup and get back in there. If he hits you with intimidate and stun, warcry and retreat.
You could always pickup Rifleman for the famed DXR6-B and smoke him with that.