Teras Kasi Archive

Ya, drop them once your built up. until then, I switch back and forth, with it on my toolbar. I take them off when im about to do a move, like knockdown, then pop them back on for just normal beating. Then I didn't drain my stats, and still get better damage/speed.

might as well bump this since i still havent gotten an answer

Dropped Vk's when I hit master, it's a slight decrease in damage but you really don't noticeit.

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Taidashan wrote:

might as well bump this since i still havent gotten an answer

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Taidashan you do not read very well. Your question was answered in great detail.

As for everyone saying they don't notice much difference without vk's I can only say they must only be fighting quenkers or something because vk's make a HELL of a diff.

Anything with armor (there are a ton of things out there with armor) will take you 50% longer to kill without vk's and longer still if they have decent kinetic resists (that would be about all of them). On hunting trips with my usual group I often have to drop my rifle and go tka in order to help out others in trouble. They would have died many a tragic death if I had just used my hands because of the time it takes to beat something down with 40% or better light armor kinetic resists. Our last trip was killing some of those little evil ewoks. They have light armor but no additional resists. I tested how long it took to drop them with just hands and with vk's. Vk's dropped them almost twice as fast. Like I have said, you cannot go with what your combat log tells you for damage. It might say you hit for 1500 damage but you actually hit for 1100 or less if they have light armor and/or resists. With vk's you negate the light armor and hit for additional damage from the weapon it's self. In some cases (with the right resist ammounts) you will drop certain things twice as fast on average.

It is a nice perk to be able to be deadly with your hands only but the simple fact is that vk's are a weapon that adds to your base damage and gives you light armor piercing ability. Seeing how easy it is to reduce the HAM cost to almost nothing there is no real reason not to use them all the time is straight up fighting. About the only time I don't use them is when I haven't bothered to buff because things are so easy or I am not trying to embarress other professions who take 10 times longer to kill things than I do. The only bad thing I have to say about vk's is that content is moving toward harder and harder mobs and better and better armor (will see about that though when combat patch comes) and vk's allowing us slightly better kinetic damage may not cut it anymore. There will be a time when tka's will need another damage type.

I've found I usually go true unarmed and use hit3, if the thing has armor I use hit2, I avoid vks+hit3 like the plague, each hit cots me over 150 ham unbuffed that way. Though I've found it is possible to be buffed well enough to be able to use hit3 with vks, get a full set of high power doc buffs, get a musician buff with ur focus/will maxed out (dancer buffs don't hurt either), and fill up on brandy, the only pool you are losing when you use specials then is mind and not that much mind, you will be regenerating it as fast as you lose it (actually faster). Anyway what I really like about hit3 unarmed is the damage is consistantly good and the ham cost is about the same as hit2 with vks.

thnx

I used to be a strong believer of no VK use. I went for about 4 months not ever useing a VK after I made master. Then, after mastering heavy swordsman and seeing how fast I could take out enraged rancors, I wonderd why I couldn't match this with tka. Well, VK's have light AP which you don't get when you don't use VK's. So, after useing VK's on enraged rancors I could take them out much easer. So, my answer to you would be... use both. Use nothing if what you're attacking has low kinetic resist and no armor. Soon as something has armor I'd almost always equip a VK.