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Here is a Perfect example of how a TKM handles a finished template/knight. See how he brought back a ganker to be able to beat him?

Sorry, double post.

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Message Edited by Fondler on 02-02-2005 04:25 PM

Hah, Katana actually isn't that good and the Jedi he is attacking there is one of the worst PvPers on our server (and also a friend of mine - sorry Cambria ). In all fairness to Katana, he has killed some 310(+,-) Jedi, but he has lost to a LOT more. From what I understand, most of his kills are NON-Knights and those that aren't are mostly gank-squad kills (though this is obviously hear-say).

I believe that my friend Tanker (also a BH/TKM) is working on making a video, now HE is a pretty good Jedi-butt-kicker and great PvPer overall. I'll get you guys that as soon as I can if he is in deed able to make it.

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Fondler wrote:
Hah, Katana actually isn't that good and the Jedi he is attacking there is one of the worst PvPers on our server (and also a friend of mine - sorry Cambria ). In all fairness to Katana, he has killed some 310(+,-) Jedi, but he has lost to a LOT more. From what I understand, most of his kills are NON-Knights and those that aren't are mostly gank-squad kills (though this is obviously hear-say).

I believe that my friend Tanker (also a BH/TKM) is working on making a video, now HE is a pretty good Jedi-butt-kicker and great PvPer overall. I'll get you guys that as soon as I can if he is in deed able to make it.

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Keep it on your forums guys, don't bring it here.

keep calm, it's just information that is pertinent to the discussion...

If we are going to be presenting examples of what to do, they should be good examples. I'm speaking objectively as I know all the people involved and have a level of respect for all of them, regardless of their PvP abilities. (I used to be good friends with Katana's brother waaaaaay back when )

hey kumo or the dude with the vid is that u and if so what is your vk max thats some hardcord jedi torturing nice job..

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Nathanielstarr wrote:

What tactis would you use to beat one on one those that can heal all bars and do lightsaber damage to you that you have no resists against?

Strategies etc.

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First and foremost, remember your states. Intimidate, Stun, Dizzy, Blind. If you fail to keep these states on your Jedi opponent, your task is going to be that much more difficult.

Never forget your center macro.

Always have several pairs of powered-up VKs to change between to ensure a steady flow of decent damage.

If they are using the two-blader, your task will be easy if you have access to high level Stim Packs. I prefer Stim E's with a healing power of over 1000. This allows me to have some liberty when choosing to heal myself. I can go from 1/3 of a bar to full with one shot. I don't have to really worry about timing the Stims right with power like that. Wrath of Kun usually hits for 300-500, depending on the quality of the Light Saber. Keep the intimidate and stun on and it will typically reduce an attack that would normally do 500 points of damage to an attack that hits you for 300 at the most. It is vital to keep these states on the Jedi. As soon as you see them heal it, you clear your que and put them right back on. States are a big priority when fighting any opponent as a TKM. Just because they can heal it does not mean you shouldn't keep putting them on.

If they are using a one-handed Saber to hit your mind, things will get rough. Intimidate is a must when you see a Jedi hitting you with a One-Handed saber. One-Handed Sabers typically hit you for 100-150 Mind damage. Thats not good for business. Once I again i stress the fact that you must know, use, and be very persistent with your state effects. I also carry Aurillian fruits with me, due to their ability to heal 1000 mind damage for only 10 stomach fill.

TKM is a very efficient posture controller. It has a very good Knock Down attack. You must remember never to spam your Knock Down or Posture Change (down) attacks. I use them once every ten seconds until I have successfully changed the Jedi's posture to either Kneeling of Knocked down. If you use your KD attack after the Jedi has been Knocked Down, your attack will force them to stand back up. It was a game feature that was added to prevent KD spamming from being game-breaking. Same goes for your Posture (down) attack.

Remember to try to always keep Stun, Dizzy, and Intimidation on the Jedi. Stun and Intimidate serve the prupose of limiting your opponent's damage output. Dizzy ensures that, once you change your opponent's posture, he will stay down until he heals the dizzy. Try to watch the Jedi and predict when he heals the states. If I see a Jedi that I have forced to kneeling, I will use unarmed dizzy very persistently in order to ensure that the Jedi will go KD.

Unarmed Hit 3 is my money maker attack. I use it as my primary source of damage output while fighting Jedi. If I am fighting a Jedi without mindbuffs, I will go for the mind. However, If they are fully buffed, Unarmed Hit 3 will do more overall usefull damage than unarmed headhit 1.

Food is Important. Most times, I will take a Synth Steak and Thakitillo, as well as two brandies. Thakitillo is important. Even with +93 base KD defense, plus the insane bonus from Thakitillo, I will still find myself KD'd to their saber toss more than once during the fight. The important thing to do while KD'd is to not panick. Calmly use your /stand command. Also give your combat equilibrium a chance to work before you use the /stand command for the first time. Never spam it. If you are at half health while KD'd, you will want to use a macro to try to heal yourself.

My KD heal macro is /Stand; /Healdamage Self.

Rather simple. If your bars start getting low, spam the crap out of that command until you have successfully stimmed yourself. Then clear your combat que and return to calmly attempting to use your /stand command without spamming it more than twice every three seconds.

You will eventually stand up.

Always have your spices hotkeyed and ready for an unforseen emergency.

Keep them stated.
Keep control over their posture with unarmed lunge 1 and/or Unarmed Knockdown 2
Eat food that reduces damage from attacks and increases your KD defense.
Have last ditch items such as Spice and Aurilian fruits on hand to healp yourself regen and heal.

Or you could save yourself all of this time and effort and find a 500 strength health fire DoT

Message Edited by Ceercho on 02-03-2005 02:50 AM

If you see a Jedi that you believe is about to take off from you, try and land a warcry before they hit their FR button. I've finished off quite a few Jedi that tried to get away by warcrying them and following up with a posture change/dizzy.

Jedi at any Level are pretty much the same. Damage output remains the same. The only differences are Force Costs. Most TKMs will try to outlast the Force Bar. I prefer the more direct approach of knowing what I'm doing and killing the Jedi.

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Ceercho wrote:
If you see a Jedi that you believe is about to take off from you, try and land a warcry before they hit their FR button. I've finished off quite a few Jedi that tried to get away by warcrying them and following up with a posture change/dizzy.

Jedi at any Level are pretty much the same. Damage output remains the same. The only differences are Force Costs. Most TKMs will try to outlast the Force Bar. I prefer the more direct approach of knowing what I'm doing and killing the Jedi.

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Its all in the wrist.

Not all Jedi can heal fire, either. I have two pairs of fire VKs and an action fire gaffi stick that I use.

Get them ticking for over 300 on every bar except mind and spam Unarmed hit 3. They're either going to run or mess up and get corpsed.

That's just how I do it. Such luxuries as DoT VKs and Actionfire Gaffis aren't available to everyone. To such I people, I say, "Outlast the forcebar."