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Thread: Why is the Brawler correspondent posting that TKAs are overpowered in a nerf thread?

Leowyiak
Tue Dec 02, 2003 1:26 pm
#14





you know what... am really sick and tired of hearing all the nit picking about tka.. if you envey the profession so bad.. drop yours and become a tka and stop running your freaking mouth... so what tka is stronger.. every profession cant be the same... and you know what f**k PvP... thats all anyone seems to worry about... what damage you can do in a 2 min fight ...orhownot to get you a$$ handed to you..... Swg is much bigger than that and if you dont like it ... freaking leave... am sick of the bull $hit...


you have fencer talking about tka ... you have pikeman talking about tka... every profession is so worried about what we do... yet they dabble ever so much in our skill tree.... you guys do to much damage... if its not tka.. then its bh... every profession cant be the same... and SOE.... if you keep screwing the game up everytime one of these butt wipes opens there mouth about what they think tka should be... then you guys deserve what happens next...






yes, every profession can not be the same. yes, in PVP some professions will always have an inherant advantage (melee vrs ranged for example). but if you take a easily defined catagory of classes (melee characters) and pit them against each other, there should be an overall balance. yes, every single character should be unique, i am NOT advocating taking away TKAs unique abilities. im saying that these unique abilities make the TKA overpowered compared to classes in the same "catagory". If you pit 4 fighters in a tournament where they each fight the other once, and they are all masters of a melee profession, and lets say they have the same subskills (CH, docter, i dont care... but no dabbling in other melee professions in this test).


If they have the same skills as the others they are pitted against, who would win the most rounds? the TKA with his power boost, knockdown 2, ridiculous speed and damage is who *I* would bet on. im sure the swordsman would do well too, with all his mind attacks... but the TKA would absolutely rock the fencer and pikeman (assuming that the TKA was power boosted to keep himself alive long enough to get enough damage past the fencers defenses).


now, i am merely advocating not a nerf of TKA, but a changing of the other melee classes so there is more of an overall balance. there are several ways to do this, all you have to do is check the other classes forums (such as lowering the speed cap for fencers, or making so pikemen arent so innacurate).






You know what i say implement all the nerf for PVP only... every single one... and leave the game normal for everything else.. and you'll see just how much of those loosers stop PvP and start complaining about everything else... for each and every tka out there i say... we are the best meele profession.... SO F...KING WHAT.... we suck at pistols.... we suck at swords.. do you see tka complaining about the damage a power hammer does.... PEOPLE LIKE YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE'S GETTING NERFED... WE DONT NEED YOUR KIND HERE






the PVP issue i have talked about a bit above. but seriously... this paragraph has to be the most idiotic thing ive seen in the thread.


OF COURSE TKA suck at pistols and swords, they arent swordsmen, fencers, or pistoleers. and no i do not see TKAs complaining about power hammer damage, because the damage is balanced out by the fact that TKAs attack four times faster AND have lower HAM costs.


as in "people like me should be nerfed".... i think you had a wee bit too much of something in your morning cofee, because that makes no sense whatsoever

Inhocmark
Tue Dec 02, 2003 2:53 pm
#15

I don't see what he said as wrong, what he stated is quite correct: When people scream for nerfs they tend to use PvP as an example. Nobody says "Gee, so and so profession is broken because they can own in PvE".



In that aspect he's right. If the game gets to the point where the PvE content isn't challenging, the game is in trouble. Only a small percentage of the game PvP a lot, and they tend to also be the most vocal.





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VikaLine
Tue Dec 02, 2003 2:56 pm
#16

Have any of younerfcallers fought a Master Fencer with COB up? dont think so or else you wouldnt think TK is overpowered. Master Fencer v/s TK = Dead TK just b/c there are more TK's than Fencers or Pikeman or Swordsman dont say TK is overpowered. I read thread after thread about how Master Swordsman / Master Brawler are soloing krayts in comp with doc buffs. Ive never tried that but I think due to my light armor pierce with VK's (btw they kill me on ham) I could not solo a Krayt in the same situation. The problem is its easier to call nerf than to roll the class and see its weaknesses.



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Russcal
Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:15 pm
#17

Balance should not be just PvP, it's true.


But one of many thingsthe brawler correspondent overlooks is that there are a great many ranged weapon using NPCs, and creatures with ranged attacks, and creatures with very high resists to kinetic damage. The ability to kill a discreet mob does not an overpowered class make.


There is also the fact that the Devs have said that many mobs are not powerful enough. They should not go around nerfing select classes until the mobs themselves are at the difficulty they intended.




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JarellSecura
Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:30 pm
#18






Russcal wrote:

Balance should not be just PvP, it's true.


But one of many thingsthe brawler correspondent overlooks is that there are a great many ranged weapon using NPCs, and creatures with ranged attacks, and creatures with very high resists to kinetic damage. The ability to kill a discreet mob does not an overpowered class make.


There is also the fact that the Devs have said that many mobs are not powerful enough. They should not go around nerfing select classes until the mobs themselves are at the difficulty they intended.






exactly.



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Jockothemonkey
Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:19 pm
#19

Perhaps the reason there are more TKA than any other brawler profession is because unarmed is a prereq for 2 other popular professions. With a lot of people going commando or smuggler these days adding tka to your template is becoming quite popular.



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Tabcef
Tue Dec 02, 2003 5:05 pm
#20

If it gets too far, we can always petition him for his resignation as a corrospondent.




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Selwynn
Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:13 pm
#21

I'm sick and **edit**ing tired of guys calling nerf. Why doesn't he call for BUFFS to other classes?



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StGabriel
Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:48 pm
#22

I'm sick and **edit**ing tired of guys calling nerf. Why doesn't he call for BUFFS to other classes?

Maybe he was simply trying to foster a discussion by stating some facts about Teras Kasi. Maybe he never actually called for a nerf and in fact said that he disagreed with the very title of the topic he was posting in. Maybe it should be ok to discuss how a class is powerful in a public forum even if the facts discussed aren't 100% flattering to the status quo. Maybe this should have been taken as a challenge to provide real arguments instead of a call to character assassinate a correspondent for not doing what he's told. Maybe the person in question plays a TKA as his main and would be directly affected by any nerfs on the profession and maybe, just maybe, he has actually advocated for many issues that have positive affects for TKA's and the other elite melee professions.

Or maybe he is some arrogant, vindictive arse who has it out for all TKA's. Anyone got a rope? It's lynchin' time.

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Aceblade
Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:59 pm
#23

why would he call for a nerf on TK when on TC he is a MTK? I went out fighting with him.. great person don't beat him down.





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Ktwhobbes
Tue Dec 02, 2003 7:44 pm
#24

The Heavy swordsmen's forum is the sadest thing. They waste forums space on how to beat us, and cry nerf like babies. Do they have anything better to do then this c'mon now that's embarrising. Lets have fun and so what you cnat beat a tka b/c of dizzy/kd can u beat a pike or fencer? What about the ranged professions??? You know what since I cant beat a jedi lets cry nerf on them. B/c anything you cant beat you should cry nerf on right????



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12noon
Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:22 pm
#25






StGabriel wrote:
I'm sick and **edit**ing tired of guys calling nerf. Why doesn't he call for BUFFS to other classes?

Maybe he was simply trying to foster a discussion by stating some facts about Teras Kasi. Maybe he never actually called for a nerf and in fact said that he disagreed with the very title of the topic he was posting in. Maybe it should be ok to discuss how a class is powerful in a public forum even if the facts discussed aren't 100% flattering to the status quo. Maybe this should have been taken as a challenge to provide real arguments instead of a call to character assassinate a correspondent for not doing what he's told. Maybe the person in question plays a TKA as his main and would be directly affected by any nerfs on the profession and maybe, just maybe, he has actually advocated for many issues that have positive affects for TKA's and the other elite melee professions.

Or maybe he is some arrogant, vindictive arse who has it out for all TKA's. Anyone got a rope? It's lynchin' time.

Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The shadow knows!

StGabe.




wow, someone got a little pissed off...LOL
Russcal
Tue Dec 02, 2003 10:47 pm
#26








StGabriel wrote:


Anyone got a rope?





If we had a rope, Isuspect you would be on here trying to get it nerfed down to string.



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