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Thread: TKA any good for soloing krayts?
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Nealoc187
Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:14 pm
#14
There is so much misinformation on this thread I'm hesitant to go into it. This question comes up about once a week and those of us who know what we're talking about answer it the same way every time.
First, It is not possible for a person to solo a krayt using ONLY TKA skills in any REASONABLE amount of time. By that I mean if you are trying to headhit, or UA3 the krayt to death your armor and your buffs will wear out long before you kill it. You would need to rebuff and change armor in the middle of the fight, which isnt very practical. I did the calculations on another thread once, and at best it would take a TKA something like 5 hours to kill a krayt using VKs. Krayts have heavy armor and 90% to everything
Second, as a TKA you can tank a krayt indefinately (until your buffs and armor wear out anyways). I can, and have, tanked krayts with no net loss in ham. It's not that hard you just need to use your head and know what all your skills do (not just TKA, but brawler too). I'm not a doc, and I can tank a krayt using regular 73% ubese for an indefinate period of time (but your armor WILL wear out, mine's usually down to about 50% in 45 minutes).
I want to clarify I'm talking about Canyon, Giant, and Ancient Krayts here. Juveniles are cake and can be killed using only VKs in a few minutes.
If you have other skills to pair with TKA, like commando or swordsman or rifleman, you can solo krayts all day long. But if you are only TKA, you won't be killing any krayts unless you work on them for liteally longer than your buffs and armor will last.
slim151
Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:42 pm
#15
BTW, this is based on the assumption that a krayt can do 1000-10000 points of damage with every hit.. if its higher than you can always add melee damage mitigation3 LMFAO i think it would be fairly easy to solo a krayt, (assuming you had the time and your armor didnt COMPLETELY degrade by the time you finished killing an ancient) My estimates put it at about 2 HOURS to kill a giant or an 3 hours to kill an ancient by yourself..
Nealoc187
Sat May 01, 2004 10:28 am
#16
Before the bleed nerf, using a powerhammer capable of inflicting bleeds of about 6000pts when the target is standing, or upwards of 9k when it was KD (which is rare) AND hammering on it's head constatly with said hammer (3000 or so damage per hit, medium armor piercing) it took about 30 minutes to solo a krayt. It takes considerably longer now that bleeds are useless.
TheReturnoftheWampa
Sat May 01, 2004 3:42 pm
#17
Yeah, I miss the days of duoing DTs with my bro who was a smuggler/pistoleer. My main job was tank them, while he hits them with bleeds and runs around for a while and feigns. Stupid bleed nerfs. 
Azdraik
Tue May 04, 2004 3:14 pm
#18
Nealoc187 wrote:
First, It is not possible for a person to solo a krayt using ONLY TKA skills in any REASONABLE amount of time. By that I mean if you are trying to headhit, or UA3 the krayt to death your armor and your buffs will wear out long before you kill it. You would need to rebuff and change armor in the middle of the fight, which isnt very practical. I did the calculations on another thread once, and at best it would take a TKA something like 5 hours to kill a krayt using VKs. Krayts have heavy armor and 90% to everything
Um... well not sure where your math went off man but I (as a mtka) here can drop a regular one in about an hour and a giant in about 1.5hrs. Using nothing but headhits. Do about 100 dmg a hit avg ham on reg 300k thats about 3000 seconds or about 50m. Tough part is not getting the kill stolen while doing that.
Dozier316
Tue May 04, 2004 3:21 pm
#19
krayts are easy. your armor doesnt take that much damage as you'd think. most of the time i'm only taking 100 points of damage and my bars never go down. i uses my hammer though i think it'd take much longer with a vibro. me and my master rifleman friends own krayts with no problem and beat groups of 15 on kills. i tried to fight an ancient but his dizzy/kd was crazy and i could barely stay on my feet and my riflemans buffs had gone so he was disposed up as soon as i got kd and couldnt taunt. use itimidate 2 and warcry/peace if you need to let your mind rest. mind is probably the hardest part to it. i wear my full comp and an ubeese helmet casue its better on mind and just 5% less kin protection. if you're just plan tka though it could be hard because of lack of resist and canyons sometime KD but if you have a commando with you it should be no problem. hardest part is finding a krayt all to yourself. Oh and i forgot pearls are on juvis and they're easy as hell probably takes like 3 mins with my hammer. so a tka would have no problem with those.
Message Edited by Dozier316 on 05-04-2004 03:23 PM
Nealoc187
Tue May 04, 2004 5:01 pm
#20
Azdraik wrote:
Nealoc187 wrote:First, It is not possible for a person to solo a krayt using ONLY TKA skills in any REASONABLE amount of time. By that I mean if you are trying to headhit, or UA3 the krayt to death your armor and your buffs will wear out long before you kill it. You would need to rebuff and change armor in the middle of the fight, which isnt very practical. I did the calculations on another thread once, and at best it would take a TKA something like 5 hours to kill a krayt using VKs. Krayts have heavy armor and 90% to everythingUm... well not sure where your math went off man but I (as a mtka) here can drop a regular one in about an hour and a giant in about 1.5hrs. Using nothing but headhits. Do about 100 dmg a hit avg ham on reg 300k thats about 3000 seconds or about 50m. Tough part is not getting the kill stolen while doing that.
Here's my math, I think it's correct but maybe I'm wrong. Like I said I've solo'd tons of krayts but never just using Unarmed Head Hit.
1500dmg is average for headhit for me with a 185dmg vk. 1500x.25 (because of AP1 vs AR3)= 375dmg. 375dmg x .10 (because the resists are 90% to kinetic) = 37.5dps.
Assuming no time to heal that's 9333 seconds to kill a 350k ham krayt that's 2.6 hours which is about how long buffs will last once you get buffed and find a krayt and get buffed, etc. Looks like my 5 hour estimate was high (not sure if that was just my memory being bad from the other thread or if I did an incorrect calculation then) but 2.6 hours is still rather impractical when it comes to arbor (an 18000 condition set of ubese would be worn to nothing in this time, you'd need 2 or 3 sets on you to keep them all above 50% condition which is when their resists start going down) and it would be hard to not get your kill stolen in that amount of time. But it's possible, just a long time to be hitting the headhit (dont forget intimidate) button.
Unstable1
Tue May 04, 2004 5:44 pm
#21
the hardest part of even trying to solo a krayt will be finding one to solo.
you can't go to the krayt graveyard without running into a couple rangers and their supporting guildies. if you're lucky, people will be cool and follow some basic rules of engagement and not ks or loot camp your dragon, but that's usually only if you're already in a group that can inflict more damage than their group.
juveniles drop pearls too, folks....
Azdraik
Wed May 05, 2004 9:47 am
#22
Nealoc187 wrote:
Here's my math, I think it's correct but maybe I'm wrong. Like I said I've solo'd tons of krayts but never just using Unarmed Head Hit.
1500dmg is average for headhit for me with a 185dmg vk. 1500x.25 (because of AP1 vs AR3)= 375dmg. 375dmg x .10 (because the resists are 90% to kinetic) = 37.5dps.
Ahh there is your problem regular krayts have 60% kinetic, giants have 80% and ancients have 95%
Mistwaver
Wed May 05, 2004 10:14 am
#23
What kind of Krayt are you fighting? Juvenile? Canyon? Giant Canyon? Unbuffed with a VK and a Doctor/CM at my side providing heals and mindheals, I almost soloed a Juvenile Krayt.
Juvenile, TKA are decent on, I suppose. They only have medium armor. But the canyons, we're talking about Heavy Armor Ratingvs. Light Armor Piercing, on top of the resists, I suppose you'd do about 50 point hits on it, if that much. In 80% Composite it's possible to solo them, how it's set now it's possible to solo anything in 80%Composite,but it will take ages. Even with AP2 it takes a while to do themsolo.
So, in general, for Krayt hunting, TKA's are good for tanking, they're not really a 'hard' hitter like perhaps a Swordsman is.
DaCaptainMorgan
Thu May 06, 2004 12:53 am
#24
as a master commando and master tka i was able to solo juvi and canyon with a burn, then intimadate and wait till the burn runs out then re-apply, did a few giant canyon it just takes forever and they dizzy-kd. good armor and dont spam specials just flame cone 2
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