Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: TKM's a Jedi's worst nightmare
NightRaider
Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:01 am
#14
Unfortunately the voices that will be heard on this matter are Jedi voices.
DEADCROW27
Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:15 am
#15
You guys are right jedi should own in melee and get kited to death all day long
The grass is always greener
Gavvot
Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:18 am
#16
Jedi are supposed to be almost exctinct.
There are more jedi than rangers on most servers.
All the Jedi think Jedi should own everyone.
I think Jedi should have a chance to get hit by a lightning and drop dead (PERMA DEAD) when they use force.
No, that doesn't make sence.
Stop watching what doesn't make sence, and start showing me something that does make sence in this game...
There are more jedi than rangers on most servers.
All the Jedi think Jedi should own everyone.
I think Jedi should have a chance to get hit by a lightning and drop dead (PERMA DEAD) when they use force.
No, that doesn't make sence.
Stop watching what doesn't make sence, and start showing me something that does make sence in this game...
Vandalian
Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:38 am
#17
The difference between Teras Kasi and Jedi in reguards to force wielding is that the Jedi wield the "Force" that animates all things and the TKA wields the inner-force that animates himself. The Jedi use an external source of Force and the TKA use an internal source. This is why the TKA is resistant to force powers and is able to react fast enough in melee to avoid lightsaber attacks.
AderidSkyflyer
Thu Jun 24, 2004 4:14 am
#18
Enclave2k1 wrote:
I can see it now, a master of martial arts walks up to a jedi master, fists flying.....the jedi raises his saber and lobs off the TKA's limbs... like a hot knife through butter.
AAAAHHHH *WAKE UP* the TKA was made to own jedi, of course, this makes sense why wouldnt someones fists be the perfect weapon against a jedi weilding a LS that can cut through a blast door.
Im not saying jedi dont need a downfall, Im sayin TKA doesnt make sense. And dont flame me, i was one of the firstTKM on my server.
The problem is, you're forgetting it's a game. Yes in the films a lightsabre cuts through flesh/armour like a hot knife through butter, however, STs get taken out with one shot from a blaster.
You can't have realism in this sense because it would be boring, everyone would get taken out in 1 shot.
Think about what you're saying.
MonkeyofDoom
Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:53 am
#19
It's not about lightsabers slicing through things. Remember - the best way not to be hurt is not to be there in the first place. In other words, a close-quarters combateer should be dodging/weaving out of the way of the weapon. If he is going to be hit, then a block to the wrist of the Jedi (in this example) could be used to divert the blow.
Have you ever seen anybody fight unarmed against somebody with a knife? They don't try to grab the blade - they push/grab/twist the wrist. The same principal applies here.
Secondly, think about the Jedi as they should be at this time (i.e. in SWG) - who arethey basing the "Jedi" on? Master Windu or Luke Skywalker?
Shadowalker191
Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:51 am
#20
Star Wars Encyclopedia states.
"Both a martial art and an Order. The Teräs Käsi were formed from the remnant civilians of a long-ago battle which devastated their home world of Palawa, a war which involved the awesome powers of the Jedi Council. The few survivors of Palawa migrated to a nearby world called Bunduki, where they decided to master mind over body so they may keep the Jedi use of power in check. The Teräs Käsi are thought to be sensitive to changes in the Force, and Teräs Käsi Masters are feared by the Jedi. But Teräs Käsi are not generally Force users as Jedi are: Teräs Käsi draw internal, personal power, while Jedi draw from everything around them."
isrefo
Thu Jun 24, 2004 8:07 am
#21
Adding Jedi was the stupidest thing ever for SWG all my friends who are jedi think they should own the world and then some. They should have made it that if you want to be a player jedi you have to master every profession 5 times in10 daysthat would surely lower the the amount of jedis and the people that became jedis would be classified as failures of life because if anyone can master every profession 5 times in 10 days well they've got some serious problems.
Twunt
Thu Jun 24, 2004 10:30 am
#22
look at it this way. in all due circumstance,a jedi is just a TKM with a lightsaber. that's all. in the star wars universe, both are highly trained in the force. both can exploit and manipulate gravity, mind, you name it. simply becausea jedi wields a lightsabre does not mean that the TKM can sense it coming. if anything, i'd say a teras kasi master is better trained in the knowledge of gravity, because it is only that part of the force they really concentrate on. but then again, it's a game. and only that.
Ternque01
Thu Jun 24, 2004 11:30 am
#23
Who ever said that Jedi weren't masters at melee fighting.. um.. **edit**?
A Jedi's powers are strongest up close. In close quarters if they aren't completely decimating with their lightsaber, they are disarming, knocking down, stunning, mind-sapping, persuading, blinding, shocking (lightning), you name it to you. They are the ultimate in up close, melee fighting. Who ever said that a TKM focuses his mind on making his/her body lightsaber invincilbe is smoking something, andthey need to share.
If you want an aspect to balance Jedi against the player base, I suggest we look to the movies for that. I think a Jedi's greatest weakness is hands down explosives, fire, and alot of ranged fire from multiple weapons. Hear me out. A jedi can't do anything to block an explosion. Whup out a flamethrower, can't block that and they could only marginally misdirect some of it with their minds. But hands down, the greatest killer is a Jedi against 10 ranged fighters. There is no way a single Jedi could deal with blocking more than 3 guns at the same time. Maybe they could for a short burst, but come on.
TKM's and other melee professions would die quickly. Multiple ranged attackers is the way to take out a Jedi. Well you could add a commando to that. Not much a Jedi will do to keep fire/explosions from tearing his/her ass a new one.
RamhornSWG
Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:07 pm
#24
Ill play along....
The way a Master TKA beats a high level Jedi is by become one with his inner force.
When the jedi swings his mighty lightsaber at a master of TKA....
(ok picture a scene from the Matrix here)
He see everything in terms of force and physically reacts to dodge the lightsaber in mid-air.
As the arc of the lightsaber falls, he strikes the jedi in the head.
By the time the Jedi move is finished, the TKA is standing back in the exact spot where the Jedi first saw him.
Confused the jedi becomes wary.....(TH said so ).....and begins to run.
See perfect fit! 
bhkiller102
Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:35 pm
#25
Heres the problem with Ternque's post. SOE, by putting a proffesion with the name "Teras Kasi" in it, has showed that they are using the materials relating to Teras Kasi. Teras Kasi were formed when a war between jedi destroyed their home world, and the people who lived on the homeworld decided to train their bodies and minds to BATTLE JEDI. TKM's created themselves to know the best way to keep jedi in check in case they got out of line. In fact, many sources say that Jedi FEARED a master of Teras Kasi in close range combat. While a jedi focuses on drawing the power of the force from all around him, therefor being able to use both the light and dark sides, a TKM uses the force that is within his own body.
Also...who says that the Teras Kasi have to be HIT by the lightsaber? If you've ever seen a martial artist in combat, you know that they try their hardest to not have contact with the weapons of their enemies, imagine throwing the force into the mix...and you've got a martial artist with some fast reflexes. And don't say "but jedi would just force throw them bla blah blah!" because Masters of the ancient art of teras kasi had a very peculiar resistance to the force...
www.teraskasi.net
Ternque01
Thu Jun 24, 2004 6:15 pm
#26
bhkiller102 wrote:
Heres the problem with Ternque's post. SOE, by putting a proffesion with the name "Teras Kasi" in it, has showed that they are using the materials relating to Teras Kasi. Teras Kasi were formed when a war between jedi destroyed their home world, and the people who lived on the homeworld decided to train their bodies and minds to BATTLE JEDI. TKM's created themselves to know the best way to keep jedi in check in case they got out of line. In fact, many sources say that Jedi FEARED a master of Teras Kasi in close range combat. While a jedi focuses on drawing the power of the force from all around him, therefor being able to use both the light and dark sides, a TKM uses the force that is within his own body.
Also...who says that the Teras Kasi have to be HIT by the lightsaber? If you've ever seen a martial artist in combat, you know that they try their hardest to not have contact with the weapons of their enemies, imagine throwing the force into the mix...and you've got a martial artist with some fast reflexes. And don't say "but jedi would just force throw them bla blah blah!" because Masters of the ancient art of teras kasi had a very peculiar resistance to the force...
www.teraskasi.net
Well the problem with your post is that I've taken a martial art called Aikido for seven years (off and on, lol). It is a martial art that is defensive in purpose and is based directly off sword techniques and Ju Jitsu. We train to flow and blend with an attack and neutralize it. I have trained several sword disarms myself, as I think the art excels at techniques for it. It would take a person incredible training and innate and natural ability to perform those kinds of moves effectively against even an adept swordsman without getting killed. Trying to disarm a Jedi by hand would be hit or miss even to the highest trained Teras Kasi master. Given Jedi reaction speed and foresight, it's almost impossible unless you can uncenter the Jedi's mindthrough some other means (naked pictures of Richard Simmons).
A Teras Kasi master could probably beat the stew out of an unarmed Jedi, I give you that point for sure, but a TKM is at a severe range disadvantage against a foe armed with a sword (lightsaber), and that accounts for alot.