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Thread: TK without VK is pretty **edit** good!

MysticTrunks
Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:39 pm
#14

BlahBlah is right.


Guys... Gals, lets not fight each other... let us direct these negative angry and justified emotions towards the Dev's and creators that deserve them.




Va'len Grey
Gorath
"Understanding is a three edged sword.
Your side, their side, and the Truth"
BlueBlahBleh
Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:49 pm
#15

I am confidant that the devs will hear the cries of ALL of these TKA here (especially since so many TKA masters are backing up that this is a bad TKA update) and i think they will fix it soon.



if not i simply won't play anymore. No fun to play a gimped out character...



If you think this update is good, that's fine. we can all have our opinions... I am inclined to believe the person who claims a CSR said this is mostly a bug that is about to be fixed, however.

Gutshot
Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:50 pm
#16

*clap clap*


Preach on Elanae!


Should join us on the cancel your account and see if SOE notices bandwagon. We're hoping it gets the message across that we're not pleased.

Afra_Lyon
Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:51 pm
#17

I'm sorry, you must be living in a dream world. Without VK's, my knockdown costs 213HAM. That sure as hell is significant. I even drank 2 Tat Sunburns, and my unequipped HAM cost went down to 167... higher than pre patch with VK's. So you must be smoking some good herb or crack, but don't tell me that HAM costs have gone down across the board and that we're better off without VK's. I pump out a hell of a lot more damage with them on than without.



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Opiium
Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:54 pm
#18

it's not as bad as it could be


and to prove my point :


http://www.subliminate.com/galaxies/screenShot0021.jpg




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Selwynn
Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:58 pm
#19

Ok - let's figure out why we are having such different experiences. I don't believe you're lying, and you're going to have to trust that I'm not lying. So here's me:

Laurianna Goodspeed
Human Female
900 Health
400 (I think) Strength
450 (I think) Constitution
900 action
500 stamina
500 quickness
900 Mind
400 Focus
400 Willpower

My skills are:
Master Brawler
Advanced Power Techniques (i.e. Power II)
Intermediate Balance Conditioning (i.e. Knockdown one)
Precision Striking II (I.e. Action targeted hit I think)

Novice Medic
Novice Scout
Novice Artisan

Ok, I had my Character Stat window open after I walked up to a white conning gungan warrior or whatever they were called. Only white I know, I didn't have time to fine something tougher, and I didn't figure it mattered. I made sure VKs were not on, and I used knockdown -- I went from 900 action to 863 action.

That's a lot different than you're -200 on the HAM. I can't explain what the difference is. If I was losing 200 points each time I would be angry too.

NOW please note, when I equip knuckles I lose like almost 500 points of HAM, its ugly.



Laurianna Goodspeed, TKM, Master Chemist
Knights of the Old Republic PA
Scylla server - Coren, Naboo

"I survived Melon Nerf 2003"

Zarne
Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:02 pm
#20

if my unarmed knockdown takes 100 ham without knucklers, i'd live with that but the simple fact that it's taking over twice that is killing me. All I can do is spam specials and hope for the best and of course, not use knucklers anymore since it's suicide. I could take either berserk being hosed or knockdown being hosed but berserk, knockdown, and unarmed hit 3 being devestated is the last straw.


If that wasn't bad enough, devs stated that they have no intention of making ranged and melees be balanced by our terms. As if us only being able to do half the damage pistoleers can do at close range as well as not having a decent knockdown attack wasn't clue enough.


I'm not quitting but I'm not living under these circumstances. Welcome the newest pistoleer/rifleman. Kind of sad. I had master power techniques, master balance conditioning, and was almost at expert precision striking.




Darkel - Teras Kasi Master/Creature Handler/Medic

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DShanKaen
Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:09 pm
#21

Well, I think you're 40 HAM cost for using KD may be IF you don't have any armor on at all. I personally don't know, I haven't tried, but I am currently getting 252 HAM penalties for using KD right now. I made the mistake of having my VK's equipped when I tried it the first time and it ended up punishing me for something like 800 HAM. Ouch.


Peace and Prosperity


D'Shan Kaen

Opiium
Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:16 pm
#22

Zabrak


1100 Health
500Strength
400 Constitution
1100action
350stamina
350 quickness
600 Mind
300Focus
700Willpower


59/48/32 Vibro Knucklers


Unarmed Knockdown1 without knucklers- 221 HAM


Unarmed Knockdown1 with knucklers- 719 HAM


Unarmed Knockdown 2 without knucklers- 221 HAM


Unarmed Knockdown 2 with knucklers- 719 HAM


something very wrong with your readings Selwynn, either the true ham costs aren't being reported correctly or you have somehow inexplicably escaped the "nerf"




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Elanae
Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:27 pm
#23

Selwynn, what cons even to you is a lot different than what cons even to me therefore you can live thru a battle, where as Masters can't because we have to fight larger mobs to get xp. Don't know my stats because I am constantly changing them putting more into mind, focus, and willpower because I keep dying to that and I need it for Doctor.






Elanae Curvacious -- Master Tera Kasi / Master Doctor on Lowca -- "Fear the wrath of the Cinnabuns!"
Med Supplies -- 6968, 6845 E of Kaadara

"Teras Kasi are lethal, nearly impossible to knock down or unbalance...Facing an opponent armed with ranged weapons, high-level abilities enable his or her to evade blaster fire and close in quickly, bringing him or her enemy swiftly to the ground. " - Page 267, SWG Strategy Guild on Teras Kasi


Where's the beef?! Buying Herb/Avian meat!
Louis_Cypher
Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:34 pm
#24

I'm a male Zabrak with these stats.


1100 Health
500 Strength
300 Constitution
1100Action
300 Stamina
300 Quickness
800 Mind
300 Focus
700 Willpower


normal high VK ham costs.


Skills are TKM and CHM with half the novice medic boxes.


I never have bothered with wearing any armor whatsoever.


I'm getting about the same HAM costs as Opiium mentioned.


Either we are bugged or your characteris because with our HAM costs being thatmuch different there isn't anyother explanation I can think of.


My HAM costs without VK's equiped before the patch was something like 34 for KD1 and 55 for KD2.


Didn't get Vk's until 1/3 of the way to TKM and still never have seen a baz nitch or a tusken, made all my exp of Talus. Just incase people were wondering. Only have 25k in the bank, since I bought every single skill at trainers.


Selwynn
Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:35 pm
#25

Elanae, that has nothing to do with how much one use of KD costs without VK now does it?

For the purpose of THAT TEST I happened to fight something that was even con, if you look at my previous posts you'll notice that my diet today has consisted of white, yellows and some reds.

I'm sorry that some of you seem pathologically committed to your misery, but the bottom line is, it just aint my story.



Laurianna Goodspeed, TKM, Master Chemist
Knights of the Old Republic PA
Scylla server - Coren, Naboo

"I survived Melon Nerf 2003"

Elanae
Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:40 pm
#26

I can't give you my HAM costs because I am in class. *cringe*





Elanae Curvacious -- Master Tera Kasi / Master Doctor on Lowca -- "Fear the wrath of the Cinnabuns!"
Med Supplies -- 6968, 6845 E of Kaadara

"Teras Kasi are lethal, nearly impossible to knock down or unbalance...Facing an opponent armed with ranged weapons, high-level abilities enable his or her to evade blaster fire and close in quickly, bringing him or her enemy swiftly to the ground. " - Page 267, SWG Strategy Guild on Teras Kasi


Where's the beef?! Buying Herb/Avian meat!
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