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Thread: Still shafted on CoB and Acurity

Winnoe
Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:11 pm
#14






hothype wrote:

this is the test i did. it was this morning


he hits me 22 times succesfully. counterattack/dodge 5 times. he misses me once. that is a total of 28 swings at me.


all of this is when CoB is on. he is 1 box from tka master, i am tka master.


this isnt right. i only dodge for 17.857% of the time? not right.





And you don't have any Swordsman or Pistoleer/Fencer counterattacj and dodge?? Interesting... in PvP and PvE combat, out of 500+ parsed hits against me... not one counter attack or dodge or block.... yet out of 28 attacks against you, you dodge/c-attack 5 times. Hmmmm,.... interesting...





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o0MaSTa0o
Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:19 pm
#15

wow doesnt ure title say gunfighter?? AHH IT DOES...oh then why are you here...CUZ U DONT HAVE COB U FECKING NOOOB!!!! so b4 u come here and troll our boards either a) show ure true tags that state that you have CoB or b) get a life, stay on your boards, and get educated b4 spewing out non-sense.



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dashida
Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:25 pm
#16

someone not take their ridilin this morning?





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JeremiahD
Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:49 pm
#17






o0MaSTa0o wrote:
wow doesnt ure title say gunfighter?? AHH IT DOES...oh then why are you here...CUZ U DONT HAVE COB U FECKING NOOOB!!!! so b4 u come here and troll our boards either a) show ure true tags that state that you have CoB or b) get a life, stay on your boards, and get educated b4 spewing out non-sense.







Hmm am I wrong or is it possible to be a master pistoleer/master tka? Oh wait of course not, what was I thinking, I must be such a FECKING NOOOB!!!!


favorite part about masta's post... "get educated b4 spewing out non-sense"


lol



Jeremiah

Buckey_Knight
Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:41 pm
#18

Here's another one to prove that our Defensive Accuity and CoB are STILL busted and worthless:


While wandering around on Dathomir, I decided to test today's Teras Kasi fix by having my Teras Kasi master pick a fight with a rancor(no pets of course). At the start, I blinded it, stunned it, etc...then i just proceeded to pound away withbare fists and watched my combat history fly by. It missed me about 30-40% of the time (most likely cuz it was blinded and I have high melee defense). However, I only counter-attacked ONCE out of the entire battle. (No Dodge or Block, either) And here's the kicker--when i turned on CoB I actually got hit MORE. It began to hit me every single round with CoB activated. How jacked up is that? We've got sword fighters out there soloing Krayt Dragons and hi lvl NPCs without getting a scratch. Now, should there still be differences between TKA and Fencer? Of course! But that much of a difference incredibly unbalanced. I shouldn't have to master another combat profession just to get the Dodge, Block, or Counterattack bonuses...that's what Defensive Accuity is for. We were promised that ALL melee fighters were to gain the defenses needed to become tanks. Teras Kasi still isn't seeing it.


I'm not upset because we haven't gotten this great defense, yet...i'm mad cuz the Devs have attempted to give it to us TWICE and still fail to deliver. That's just poor. The 300,000+ players of this game fork out over 4.5 MILLION dollars every month andthey can't even fix a stupid little problem like this!(And this surely isn't the first time) Now, I'm usually a content gamer, but when I'm promised something by a company making that much money off it's customers, I expect it to be done right the FIRST time.


Well, enough of my ranting and raving...I will go attempt to calm myself now and await the day when we Teras Kasi are again dominant in the melee hierarchy.

CazzimirStylla
Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:49 pm
#19

i just tested with a bh using a scout blaster.


w/o cob- hit about 75-80% of the time


w/ cob- hit me about 50-60% of the time. almost every other hit was countered or miss. he has acc. of +85 (only at bh pistol 2)


tried his pet against me. 50% hit w/ cob, about 75% hit success w/o


so cob isn't that bad, but for the HAM cost it should be better. i'm guessing cob is fixed, but our accuity is what's broken.




Cazzimir Stylla
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veltroz
Thu Nov 20, 2003 11:53 pm
#20

this is my test.

My TKM vs a 3/4/4/4 BH - CDEF pistol from 30 mt.

50 shots with CoB, 50 shots without CoB.

with CoB I was hit 78% of the time (39 hits).

without CoB I was hit for 86% of the time (43 hits).

Still broken IMO.
your-mama
Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:37 am
#21

>yep


with my starsider toon i login sometimes and it still says master gunfighter above my head even though i droped it...




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atimes
Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:44 am
#22

Well don't swordsmen have huge counterattack mods?


That would explain why they counterattacked so much right?


According to the brawler correspondant Swordsman have a +100 to counterattack.


that's why they countered so much. The mods are working now.


I say if you get shot at 23 times and only 7 connect that's pretty good in my book.

atimes
Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:48 am
#23

Also fencers have great dodge mods they have +90 to dodge. That's why they dodge so much.


Winnoe
Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:55 am
#24






JeremiahD wrote:





o0MaSTa0o wrote:
wow doesnt ure title say gunfighter?? AHH IT DOES...oh then why are you here...CUZ U DONT HAVE COB U FECKING NOOOB!!!! so b4 u come here and troll our boards either a) show ure true tags that state that you have CoB or b) get a life, stay on your boards, and get educated b4 spewing out non-sense.





Hmm am I wrong or is it possible to be a master pistoleer/master tka? Oh wait of course not, what was I thinking, I must be such a FECKING NOOOB!!!!


favorite part about masta's post... "get educated b4 spewing out non-sense"


lol


Jeremiah





ROFL!! Too funny! Which version of SWG are you playing, o0MaSTa0o? The demo version that only gives you 92 skill points?
Hmm let's see now...


Master Brawler - 77 points
TKA Master - 63 points
Marksman Pistols IV - 29 points
Pistoleer Special Abilities4-20points
Smuggler Dirty Fighting 1 - 11 points
Novice Fencer Stances & Grips 3 - 18 points
Novice Swordsman - 6 points
Novice Pikeman - 6 points
Medic FA2 -20 points


Total....250 points. Wow... on my version of Star Wars Galaxies, i get 250 skill points to use. OMG! You mean... I'm not cheating? I can be a Master Brawler/TKA and still use a gun? Bah, get a clue, o0MaSTa0o.







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JiveTimeMofo
Fri Nov 21, 2003 5:26 am
#25

it seems there is a diff w/ you cob on. so i have to agree that cob may not be broken, but the accuity that seems to not work. if accuity were working you'd be receiving less hits w/ cob off, but that's not the case.



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JediQuic
Fri Nov 21, 2003 6:21 am
#26






Slaitaar wrote:
This is a test of a TKM and a Master Heavy Swordsman being shot at by someone else holding a CDEF carbine.

TKM = Shot 23 times, got hit 7 times, dodged once, counterattacked twice.

MHS = Shot 23 times, hit once, counterattacked 22 times.

This is with them both centered.


WHAT THE F....???!

I am 2/3/4/3 tka and i dodge/counter/block in pve about once every 20 or so hits, maybe, and when centered about 1/10 or so...this is just wrong!





I Have been seeing Many posts like this.....I Don't want to Say the big Bull word, Because i Do Believe It is working better for swordsmen then TKS(The way it should be IMO ) and that the gap may be a little too wide....But actual Logs and Screen's would Back up your arguement Alot more then Just Throwing out random rumbers and saying you ran some tests.


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