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Thread: Innate Armor Not as good as we are led to believe...
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Whirr
Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:23 pm
#14
The best way I have found to handle flamers is to simply ignore them. The second best way is to make a self deprecating remark in reference to what they're flaming you about. Fighting back with another flame is a complete waste of time and emotion. Thats just my opinion.
I also only see one person that could be considered flaming. I'm not sure who the others are.
I also only see one person that could be considered flaming. I'm not sure who the others are.
Message Edited by Whirr on 07-15-2005 02:24 PM
Farkey
Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:31 pm
#15
The real answer to the problem you were having is most likely that you were wearing some item that qualified as armor initially without realizing it, and it was disabling your innate armor. Innate armor at TKM is the equivalent to having armor with 6000 protection (equivalent to 48% damage reduction). An unlayered set of battle armor caps at 6000 (the exact same protection), or could be boosted to 7000 or so (52.5% damage reduction) with some layers. On some servers it's likely possible to go even higher with layers, but not enough to make a significant difference.
I, as well as many many others, have verified these armor protection levels many times and shown them to be accurate. So there was obviously something else going on there, since you were seeeing drastically more than a roughly 5% increase in protection.
acolesnash
Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:02 pm
#16
i think its quite funny when people act soo freaking serious about a GAME... i think you should grow up not us, im just enjoying myself. Of course this is comming from a person who makes games for a living and loves it... hah well if you let the people like me get to you, you need to take a step back from the computer and realise there is a real world somewhere out there too....
PyscoJuggalo
Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:06 pm
#17
acolesnash wrote:
i think its quite funny when people act soo freaking serious about a GAME... i think you should grow up not us, im just enjoying myself. Of course this is comming from a person who makes games for a living and loves it... hah well if you let the people like me get to you, you need to take a step back from the computer and realise there is a real world somewhere out there too....
SOE DEVELOPER BURN IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's for all the CH's
(Joking, please this is a joke)
Message Edited by PyscoJuggalo on 07-15-2005 08:06 PM
Rince_uk
Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:09 pm
#18
"i think its quite funny when people act soo freaking serious about a GAME... i think you should grow up not us, im just enjoying myself. Of course this is comming from a person who makes games for a living and loves it... hah well if you let the people like me get to you, you need to take a step back from the computer and realise there is a real world somewhere out there too...."
I do realise there is a real world out there - I make the most of it - I don't feel the need to act like some angsty teenager with no friends or social skills. If someone came up to me in the street and started acking like that, they would be visiting A&E...
Andme grow up? lol... I don't need to get my jollies by acting like an arse - perhaps u need help? I dunno - perhaps you don't get enough attention and this is the only way you can do it. Go out more, get a girl / boyfriend - do whatever you need to gain a bit of a life 
Oh, and this is a forum, not a game - from someone who says they make games, you seem to have a strange perception about what a game is.
Ten-96
Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:39 pm
#19
What was the original topic for this thread? I could have sworn it had something to do with TIA.
Aegif
Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:52 pm
#20
I didnt read any of the other posts so sorry if Im repeating something, but about the original post..
Im a def stacker and I love to work without armor. When grinding bols i dont mess with food cause CoB works best for me.
Ive got enough Bio cloths and def that I can get about a lvl 80 bol down to around 45 damge. So yeah Innate armor is not the best armor, but my armor is my Bio cloths and the rest of my template... and its lots cheaper.
And besides. Id say having Doc is just as good a defence as well cause you can heal damage done, as opposed to not taking as much damage.
Im a def stacker and I love to work without armor. When grinding bols i dont mess with food cause CoB works best for me.
Ive got enough Bio cloths and def that I can get about a lvl 80 bol down to around 45 damge. So yeah Innate armor is not the best armor, but my armor is my Bio cloths and the rest of my template... and its lots cheaper.
And besides. Id say having Doc is just as good a defence as well cause you can heal damage done, as opposed to not taking as much damage.
Ronaj
Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:14 am
#21
Rince_uk wrote:
"i think its quite funny when people act soo freaking serious about a GAME... i think you should grow up not us, im just enjoying myself. Of course this is comming from a person who makes games for a living and loves it... hah well if you let the people like me get to you, you need to take a step back from the computer and realise there is a real world somewhere out there too...."
I do realise there is a real world out there - I make the most of it - I don't feel the need to act like some angsty teenager with no friends or social skills. If someone came up to me in the street and started acking like that, they would be visiting A&E...
Andme grow up? lol... I don't need to get my jollies by acting like an arse - perhaps u need help? I dunno - perhaps you don't get enough attention and this is the only way you can do it. Go out more, get a girl / boyfriend - do whatever you need to gain a bit of a life
Oh, and this is a forum, not a game - from someone who says they make games, you seem to have a strange perception about what a game is.
Actually Rince it does sound like you need to relax a little, only 1 person could be considered to flame as the previous poster said. You asked a question and people posted replies, some of which contained their own experiences and obversations, that's it plain and simple.
Now to try and answer your question, are you wearing any hats/helmets? What kind of clothing are you wearing? Another thing you can do now is since you've taken some hits while wearing your armor is to unequipp every piece of armor/clothing you're wearing and try fighting cl 82 bols again and see if you get hit for the same damage you did before you tried the armor. If you do then I'd submit a ticket/bug report as your character being bugged would then be the only possible explanation if you're fighting in just your boxers and still getting hit for over 300 dmg.
soulsyphon
Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:43 am
#22
i would not call battle armor compaired to inate tka armor drastic, but the only diffrence in the 2 is battle armor can be sliced, inate armor is not. In either case does not make much diffrence either way overall, other then seen some rebel battle armor with uneven stats out there also and all stats below very slightly 6k , more like 5940 to all, which is worse initially, but it can be sliced over that (if you can find some one that can find the loot only stuff to do slices, i have been un able to myself for other types of slices)
Tymothi
Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:04 am
#23
Unless you get layered or sliced battle armor it should be about the same as TIA. The benefit to TIA and what makes it all worth it to me is being able to wear BE clothing. Now, you can also use AAs on your armor but that's a whole lot more expensive on top of your armor and getting it sliced.
Nothmund
Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:51 pm
#24
After having my butt made into a nice hat and handed back to me by the Grievious clone fellow the other night, I read my combat log while waiting for him to finish off the 2 jedi I was with, an I noticed that my innate armor was pretty awesome when compared to the Jedi's. He was hitting me for around 2900 points, and I was absorbing over 1700 of it. Of course the other 1200 was kicking my southern hemosphere, but the jedis were not absorbing even close to that. I still think that 2 smugglers, a combat medic, and the rest combat professions could do that quest easy. Now to convince another smuggler to go along with it....
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