Teras Kasi Archive

A few things:

You said you "shoot". What are you shooting. Are you sure your COB mod isn't just taking your block/dodge/counterattack mods from your ranged weapons skills and using that. Remember COB works for a specific mod. Fencers it's dodge, swordsman's counter attack and pikeman get block. We get defensive acuity which means we have a chance to dodge OR block OR counterattack. Are you sure defensive acuity is working or that the mods from your ranged skills are making it happen?

I tried it last night, against several quenkers. I noticed ZERO change in the number of hits/misses... and ZERO dodge, counterattack, or block.

COB still sucks, 300 ham points for nothing.

Belak,

Teras Kasi Master
Starsider

I am now using CoB all the time since I see a significant difference between having it on vs off. I occasionally take a mauler mission on Naboo where I get a Mauler Master or Mauler Lord which are red con to me (I am TKM and Pistoleer Master so they are buff). Before CoB it was a bleed and run tactic and hope not to die until I could close on him and spam him with my normal TK macro of 6 specials. Now I just flick CoB on, and stand toe-to-toe with the turd and kill him (mostly). I do more damage to myself with specials when I forget to unequip my VK than he does (unless he gets in a good shot first - have run into one that I swear was duplicating every TK move I did with more success).

More importantly, I have an apprentice that is trying to become a TK. I suggested he try it and he feels that he is now killing faster with less downtime due to CoB. It may not be as effective for an unarmed brawler as a TKM due to modifiers but it does help.

BTW: if you are berserk, you can't turn it on but you can turn it on first then go berserk. However, I am not sure while berserk you benefit from it since berserk reduces your defenses. Also, it appears that if I switch to pistol the effect remains, maybe. Certainly the message that my thoughts drift away doesn't appear right away but goes off when expected.

I am going to test this tonight and i will post my results... I sure hope it works

Man.. I didn't get a chance to test this last night. I'm really excited to hear that it might be working though. If people do run tests, please post the numbers.

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Mister_Heavy wrote:

Man.. I didn't get a chance to test this last night. I'm really excited to hear that it might be working though. If people do run tests, please post the numbers.

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I have not done any "scientific" tests....but i used it all night last night. I don't think it is as useful as the fencer CoB (which is ok from where I stand), but out of 10 swings by huurton stalkers I was dodging, counter attacking, and they were missing perhaps 7-8 times (out of 10). I still got incapped a couple times when surrounded...but that is because i was getting cocky with CoB. I am not sure it is worth th 200+ mind hit...but it definately seems to be working to some degree now.

Excellent news - can't wait to test this out

BTW, as it is now, we'll probably never see anything like the Fencer CoB, because lots of those guys have pistoleer as well, and their dodge bonuses are stackiing for the time being.

Same as above.. I tried CoB against a moderately high level mob (riverside sulfer mynock) and there were some misses, and I saw one counterattack during the duration. Still more hits than misses.Not worth the huge cost to my most critical pool. Sure would like to know if it is as intended or still needing work so I could take it off my toolbar if it's the former. Anything that costs mind hadbetter be REALLY useful.

I've tried it a few more times. I noticed a lot of counterattacks which leads me to believe that my levels in Rifle block are affecting my CoB (Block is messed up and shows as counterattack).

So CoB may not be fixed after all.

Mister H,

Since the TKA CoB fix patch, I've wrote in almost every threads related to this matter that CoB was "working" and I even posted my combat log against force sensitive npc on the board..well..let''s do a search now

My log ( I was grouped with my pets but I was tanking )

[Spatial] 20:01:32 "stay" Cielago says.
[Combat] 20:01:32 "stay" Cielago says.
[GroupChat] 20:01:32 "stay" Cielago says.
[Combat] 20:01:37 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) shoots at you and misses.
[Combat] 20:01:37 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 20:01:39 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 20:01:41 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 20:01:43 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 403 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:01:44 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) swings at you and hits for 251 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:01:44 Your Padded Armor Boots armor prevented 184 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:01:44 Your attack failed to change your target's posture.
[System Message] 20:01:44 Your attack failed to change your target's posture.
[Combat] 20:01:44 You use Riding Bantha on Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) for 404 points of damage!
[Combat] 20:01:45 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 400 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:01:46 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) swings at you and misses.
[Combat] 20:01:46 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 396 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:01:47 Your attack failed to knock down your target.
[System Message] 20:01:47 Your attack failed to knock down your target.
[Combat] 20:01:47 You use Charging Wampa on Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) for 1215 points of damage!
[Combat] 20:01:48 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) swings at you and hits for 183 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:01:48 Your Padded Armor Boots armor prevented 135 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:01:48 You use Gundark Slap on Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) for 787 points of damage!
[Combat] 20:01:49 You use Aryx Slash on Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) for 808 points of damage!
[Combat] 20:01:49 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) looks like he's having trouble seeing clearly!
[Combat] 20:01:50 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) swings at you and misses.
[Combat] 20:01:50 You use Screaming Squill on Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) for 800 points of damage!
[Combat] 20:01:50 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) looks stunned!
[Combat] 20:01:51 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 399 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:01:52 You focus your thoughts on self preservation.
[System Message] 20:01:52 You focus your thoughts on self preservation.
[Combat] 20:01:52 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) swings at you and hits for 142 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:01:52 Your Padded Armor Chest Plate armor prevented 103 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:01:53 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 390 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:01:54 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) swings at you and misses.
[Combat] 20:01:54 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 398 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:01:55 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 397 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:01:56 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) swings at you and hits, but you shrug it off and counterattack!
[Combat] 20:01:56 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 401 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:01:57 You use Gundark Slap on Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) for 802 points of damage!
[Combat] 20:01:58 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) swings at you and hits for 174 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:01:58 Your Padded Armor Gloves armor prevented 117 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:01:58 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 402 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:01:59 You try to intimidate Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) but it doesn't work very well.
[Combat] 20:02:00 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) swings at you and misses.
[Combat] 20:02:00 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 396 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:02 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 393 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:02 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) swings at you and hits, but you shrug it off and counterattack!
[Combat] 20:02:02 Your Padded Armor Right Bicep armor prevented 44 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:03 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 404 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:04 You try to intimidate Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) but it doesn't work very well.
[Combat] 20:02:04 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) swings at you and misses.
[Combat] 20:02:05 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 390 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:06 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side)'s Shenbit Bonecrusher misses you.
[Combat] 20:02:06 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 403 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:07 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 404 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:08 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 398 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:09 You use Spitting Rawl on Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) for 1594 points of damage!
[Combat] 20:02:10 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 404 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:11 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 390 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:12 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) swings at you and misses.
[Combat] 20:02:12 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 402 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:13 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 393 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:14 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) swings at you and hits, but you shrug it off and counterattack!
[Combat] 20:02:14 Your Padded Armor Right Bicep armor prevented 84 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:14 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) looks very intimidated by you!
[Combat] 20:02:15 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 397 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:16 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) swings at you and misses.
[Combat] 20:02:17 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 391 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:18 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 399 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:18 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) swings at you and hits, but you shrug it off and counterattack!
[Combat] 20:02:19 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 396 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:20 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 401 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:20 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) swings at you and hits for 53 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:20 Your Padded Armor Chest Plate armor prevented 37 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:21 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 401 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:21 Your thoughts drift away from self preservation.
[System Message] 20:02:21 Your thoughts drift away from self preservation.
[Combat] 20:02:22 You use Spitting Rawl on Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) for 1590 points of damage!
[Combat] 20:02:22 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) swings at you and misses.
[Combat] 20:02:23 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 399 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:24 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 400 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:24 Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) swings at you and hits for 81 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:25 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 402 points of damage.
[Combat] 20:02:26 You swing at Ozzitra (an untrained wielder of the Dark Side) and hit for 400 points of damage.

I have not done any "scientific" tests....but i used it all night last night. I don't think it is as useful as the fencer CoB (which is ok from where I stand), but out of 10 swings by huurton stalkers I was dodging, counter attacking, and they were missing perhaps 7-8 times (out of 10). I still got incapped a couple times when surrounded...but that is because i was getting cocky with CoB. I am not sure it is worth th 200+ mind hit...but it definately seems to be working to some degree now.

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With TKM, master brawler, and some boxes into sword and pike, I have a melee defense of 87, so I would expect critters to miss me 7-9 times out of 10. I have yet to notice any significant defense bonus to justify the massive HAM cost for CoB.

tested it aginst a tkm yesterday and it still didnt work.