Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: The big patch, the changes, the death of melee. Tad dramatic I know.
"I KD, they go down and can't do anything for 5 seconds. But neither can I. Is that right?"
No, the attacker, in this case you, can still attack as normal.
It is the TARGET that has their actions delayed for 5 seconds.
I took the 5 seconds to mean that you cant attack again for 5 seconds. I thought the length of knockdown was still the same.
If it means the mob is knocked down for 5 sec, then its even worse than I thought.
What it's forced me to do is take on other professions. Currently im working toward Master Medic and some pistol skills. Someone gave me flak about it actually.
kd timers are kinda moot since i hit ch. I'm excited about the reduced costs and increased damage and increased range on vk's.
Call me crazy but I'm actually happy with this patch. Now, all we need is our defense modifiers to do a little more.
great.
at the beginning i took stormtrooper camps out easily.
then they nerfed kd and i have to pull them to get them 1 by 1
now they nerfed kd/lunge/dizzy and even 1 is kiting me over the hole planet to death
/clap great work - i dont wanna see how sucky im in pvp now
"What it's forced me to do is take on other professions. Currently im working toward Master Medic and some pistol skills."
"kd timers are kinda moot since i hit ch."
" /sighi never used kd and i never will i have my stormtrooper guards there to help me so its no big deal. "
Says it all really. =/
I'm happy about the whole patch. Granted KD was nerfed hugely, but I can live with that! Honestly, aPolearm guy and I took on a Squill Cave by ourselves just using his AOE KD and my regular KD. Sorry, KD was too powerful.
Personally, I'm glad for the reduced costs, the increased damage, the increased range of VKs... I honestly don't care that KD got the axe. Now I can make all those cool macro unarmed scripts that I always wanted to make, but didn't have the HAM to do it! (like spin1, spin2, combo1, combo2, kd)
I'm happy! The crutch has been removed... yes it will hurt us... but start hunting other things because now is more important than ever to have those unarmed or melee bonuses because now even the Ranged people can't keep the monsters away for long!
Stelonous, are you a TK Master yet ? Reason I ask is, without KD now, you will not, I repeat, will not be able to take a white con critter or humanoid, even tho we should be able to take a white con. You can use every special unarmed move we have and it will not help, because within that 30 seconds that you are waiting to use KD again, you will get pummeled. Forget PvP, you will get kited and kited and kited until dead. I wish the devs would just get their heads out their asses and give us the defensive skills we deserve and then they could take KD out of the game entirely. KD, even tho an offensive skill, was our only true defense.
Stelonous, are you a TK Master yet ? Reason I ask is, without KD now, you will not, I repeat, will not be able to take a white con critter or humanoid, even tho we should be able to take a white con. You can use every special unarmed move we have and it will not help, because within that 30 seconds that you are waiting to use KD again, you will get pummeled. Forget PvP, you will get kited and kited and kited until dead. I wish the devs would just get their heads out their asses and give us the defensive skills we deserve and then they could take KD out of the game entirely. KD, even tho an offensive skill, was our only true defense.
How can you say for sure that I won't be able to take on a white con anymore? I have a macro that deals with creatures (blind, dizzy, stun, warcry, intimiate, lunge) that I have a problem with. A creature with this many ailments on it is not going to be a threat to me. Plus, if they fixed all the modifiers and such, maybe it'll be a lot harder to take us down. *shrug* I haven't tested the changes yet, but I guarantee I will once I get home.
If all the changes actually work like they said, they removed KD, but gave us more to play with in the long run.
To say that we suck now because KD is nerfed is ludicrious. Start using your other ailment moves. If you relied SOLELY on KD, I think you've been doing something wrong. Yes I used it quite a bit, but I'm not fearful that it no longer works. I'm just going to start using my other moves (like the way underused Warcry)
Stelounous, I did some testing on a white con Nym and white con Snorbal. I did not use KD or Lunge at all but used all our other debuffs at our disposal and did not win one fight without the use of KD. The Stormtrooper was the worse. Just kited me around and stopped occasionly, I got a few hits in, and then kited me again till I was dead
If it wasn't for 10k HAM, I might have won a couple. This was before the new patch, I can just imagine how things are after this patch.
Oh, and for the record, since you had implied that I have been "doing something wrong", I never spammed KD to win a battle (pre-nerf). I strategically used it, I guess you could say because I liked using our other specials. Yes, I use and have used our other debuffs and specials.