Teras Kasi Archive

Thread: What do you want TKAs to be?

Vykllis
Mon Jan 12, 2004 12:58 am
#222

Alright, let's break it down, cause your thread about TKA's being all powerful, is starting to wear thin.


Master Gunfighers/Rifleman/Carbineers, are the elite of the elite at there art. We, TKA's are not superman/women (for all the ladies out there that like hitting things with VK's) Sheesh. If they couldn't there would be something wrong with the system.


Do us all a favor, drop the God-complex's. Your not a dev. And, I'm sure the dev's are getting sick and tired of reading the same ol whiny posts about it. Yes, you know which ones, I'm weak, I'm miserable, I can't hit anything, I get beat up by a worrt.


And, my final thought, the sun, does not rise, when you wish it to, nor do the stars come out, when you want them to. You are a human. You are like any one else. You are not some mystical god, who says that TKA's will be Immortal incarnate. When you are, remember, people can complain about you, just as much as your complaining to the dev's about being weak and pitiful. So, give it a break, it's tiring.


Kaytalis Rotai


TKA MASTER <-- Yes, read... Master
Wanderhome


Keep up the good work, Mr H, Mr T and the dev's





Kaytalis Rotai

Master CH
Master Smuggler
Working on Holo 4 - Pikeman

TKA Master - Retired 28/1/04 Master Musician -Holo 1- Retired 11/2/04 Master Dancer -Holo 2- Retired 16/2/04 Master Entertainer - Retired 16/2/04 Master Image Designer - Retired 17/2/04

Wanderhome
Sage1
Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:15 am
#223

To the Idiots that dont know anything about TK, it is a Jedi-Martial-Art. Go to Wizards of the Coast and get the Jedi Sourcebook dumbass also in the game and in the Novel in Between Empire and Rotj and on the State of the Proffession, look, u might learn idiots.


I dont need to give evidence to what is allready known thats ur responsibility, but u have the link now so go and look, and buy it. Like i said some Jedi use TK like Mace Windu and Darth Dooku.

Vykllis
Mon Jan 12, 2004 6:27 am
#224

SWG - Game


TT(table-top) - Game


The dev's try their hardest, but, things, can't always be done that way. Now stop it, your embarassing yourself.


Kaytalis Rotai


TKA Master
Wanderhome




Kaytalis Rotai

Master CH
Master Smuggler
Working on Holo 4 - Pikeman

TKA Master - Retired 28/1/04 Master Musician -Holo 1- Retired 11/2/04 Master Dancer -Holo 2- Retired 16/2/04 Master Entertainer - Retired 16/2/04 Master Image Designer - Retired 17/2/04

Wanderhome
BluebloodUK
Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:37 am
#225

Sage, I took your advice, and looked through your postings on the 'State of the Profession II' thread with reverance. Among detailing your expertise in both the military and martial arts all of your life (since the age of seven) and able to heal your body of injuries using Chi (though, strangely, was ill recently from a cold...), I found several suggestions - like you had stated here - to purchase the RPG Sourcebook. Unfortunately, replies from equally learned collegues to that post dismiss that as evidence. Ah well.


Still, your most recent posting sums up nicely:


"With Mr.Heavy not helping the way he should, and other ppl in this Profession Forum backstabbing this Proffession i will be leaveing if i cant get Jedi.


Biggest reason is that the Stupid Devs r Nerfing this, and Every other Combat Proffession. To really piss me off ppl have suggested dmg reduction when it should be raied to 500, no less, and the HAM scores have been cut to deeply useing specials we need to survive.


Another is some idiots say we shouldnt be able to heal as fast, and thats a Treasonous thing to say and a lot of ppl r not helping but Killing this Proffession by giving in to the Devs.


That is by no means right, they should go to hell, or at, least fired, and i cant hardly wait to c the 10s of thousands that'll leave this stupid game.


As i said some ppl here r being treasenous, and those idiots shouldnt even have any say or any kind of reply if theyre going to Help Brong This Proffesion to Crap.


Its bad, and its gonna get worse. U gonna take up the u know what or actually slam the idiot devs, or even leave to a better game."


Um. Ya. Want Jedi bad huh? Lets no hear more aboutTKA being Jedi andwe all being idiots for thinking otherwise,yeah?


- Siid Vicious





Captain Siid Vicious
Ill-fated scoundrel & long-suffering owner of Nancy the R2 unit
The reason droids aren't welcome in cantinas

They tell ya, "never hit a man with a closed fist", but it is - on occasion - hilarious.

Windsplitter
Tue Jan 13, 2004 1:55 pm
#226

I think we must first learn of our history and heritage before we can truely say what we want to be




Tenrai Master Ranger | Master Rifleman Chibi's Med Supplies and Chef Suzi's Cafe
BurningFist
MCH | TKM | Master Brawler located on Tattooine in Mos Luna
LittlePaw
Master Bio Engineer | Ranger at -2300 -4700


Windsplitter
Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:06 pm
#227

Mister Heavy and the rest of my fellow TKAs, have compiled some info regarding our class and it can be found here


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=teras_kasi_artist&message.id=44795



it could provide some direction as to what the class is about. I cannot confirm that all of it is official material but i will be looking into the bookstores to try and find more concrete info. Hope it helps





Tenrai Master Ranger | Master Rifleman Chibi's Med Supplies and Chef Suzi's Cafe
BurningFist
MCH | TKM | Master Brawler located on Tattooine in Mos Luna
LittlePaw
Master Bio Engineer | Ranger at -2300 -4700


atone48732
Wed Jan 14, 2004 11:42 am
#228

And that is basically what I base my Teras Kasi char off of


Cause i belive that is our history


cause we are never mentioned in anything other then a small portion of Shadows(read my previous post for the part about tka or whatever)


plus the playstation game masters of teras kasi


and again we are hardly ever mentioned and are kind of a mysterious art


so hmm that may be true eh




Oelos Takushi: smuggler proud member of Oi and Smugglers alliance pilot..

Elalia Takushi: Dancer and rebel pilot and member of Oi
bring back TEras Kasi and the melee profs as expertise skills.. bring some fun and real diversification to SWG
Windsplitter
Wed Jan 14, 2004 8:33 pm
#229

Well, so far we are mentioned in a few places but mostly in the EU. Personally after reading about what heritage i could find about the class, one would think that it could be more than what it is.


Having said that, i do feel that the class is great where it stands now and that with Mister Heavy's work with the devs in getting CoB fixed along with improvements to combo1 and 2, is really refining the little rough edges from our class very nicely.


Why am i trying to dig up all this info? I guess because maybe we should all know what we are in the game. Also to educate others about the class because its not one which is brought to light in the movies. Please note that it is not being used to justify that we should be hunting jedis like bounty hunters. i dont want to step on the bounty hunters turf having been one once. bounties on jedi and the bounty missions are pretty much all they have to identify themselves with the nature of the class. What i am pretty tired of hearing are the threads about how we are overpowered and not balanced with the rest of the melee classes which to be honest, i find very untrue.


Having done master brawler, i found fencer and swordsman the easiest to level. no offence guys but with a decent weapon, i was doing 1k damage per sec average. i did both 2h and 1h in a day and surprised to see how much damage i could do at that level. Pikeman was the most painful bit though as you miss most of the time. But, when i did hit something, it was for a good amount of damage. Doing the unarmed line, you were getting about 150dmg average with berserk per hit so it takes considerably longer to get by.


What does this all mean? I think getting to TKA was tougher, not that im trying to say its a piece of cake with the rest but, i feel that they are easier to achieve excluding the polearm line, that was painful too. i really think pikemen need an accuracy improvement. At the elite levels for melee classes, do we all not hit for 1 sec? Master pikemen is this true for you too? i know this is true for ranged guys being a master rifleman as well. So i dont really see where all this noise is coming about the speed of the tka.


You see, the big fundimental difference that other melees have which tkas dont is the ability to do different damage types or/and at different AP ratings. Its the biggest TKA downfall. Which is good because that really does keep us in check. Its not hard to defend yourself against a tka at all, it really just takes preperation and a little common sense. as many ranged players have said time and time again, kite your target, wear good composite with high defence vs kietic and keep your distance. theres nothing a tka can do really. Sure other melees may argue that they dont have kd but i dont see why it should stop one from getting master brawler. lunge 2 is your 20m kd right there. just add warcry or dizzy.


Perhaps im **edit** crap at this game but i really have no idea how other tka's can claim they can solo everything. ive always found going up against the nightsisters with a good group, a hairy yet fun experience which mostly ended up with me having to make a few trips back to the location from the cloning facility. Im a wook by the way so no armor for me. Even with that, how on earth can any TKA solo an elder??


Being a Rifleman on another account, i too can also claim that it is very possible to solo most things and i never had trouble finghting TKMs in pvp. it was really, all too easy to take them down. But even then, i still had problems when i came across pve targets that had 100% resist to energy and AP2 or 3.


Truth is, there are things in this game that mostly any combat class can solo that another might not be able to and there are of course targets that pretty much anyone can solo. Being a CH as well. i dont remember rancors being very good pets at all, well, not at least for a very long time now, esp after the recent pet nerf. SO what is the problem really? our combat classes or the level of the content really? I believe its something to do with the content but its not an easy task for the devs to fix. if they make the rancors stronger, they affect the CH and Bio engineer community which will ultimately be felt by everyone in PvP. hmm guess what people will say which class is overpowered again? no prize for that one.


The real reason, since people are all too happy to try and destroy a class that is panning out very well, why so many people are doing rancors is because the payout is great if you can unlock the missions. its the best money maker currently. Otherwise we'll be back to doing voritors, pikets, naffs and whatever again which are targets that pretty much most master combat classes can kill off easily with a bat of an eye. I can tell you that that will be the most simplist solution to stop people from soloing rancors without offsetting the CH and BE classes. Happy now?


Word of caution too, we're all not tibetian monks here, already as it is most tka players have said that the other melee classes need fixing, Especially Pikemen. screw over our nicely panned out class and thats ok but dont think we cant come over to your board to return the favour. anyone motivated enough can pick up a class, solo something that is clearly the result of the recent nerfs/changes with the content and say "Woah look, these guys are overpowered! NERF!!"







Tenrai Master Ranger | Master Rifleman Chibi's Med Supplies and Chef Suzi's Cafe
BurningFist
MCH | TKM | Master Brawler located on Tattooine in Mos Luna
LittlePaw
Master Bio Engineer | Ranger at -2300 -4700


atone48732
Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:28 am
#230

Not trying to say we should hunt Jedi man.


Just trying to say from what I've seen and read those stories could be credible


Well thats my 2 cents





Oelos Takushi: smuggler proud member of Oi and Smugglers alliance pilot..

Elalia Takushi: Dancer and rebel pilot and member of Oi
bring back TEras Kasi and the melee profs as expertise skills.. bring some fun and real diversification to SWG
GnarLee
Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:14 am
#231

Yup, Sage is an idiot. True dat. Tka is not or never was a jedi art. It may have been studied by jedi, just as say riflemen, but they never created it. Oi, sorry your class isnt uber and able to take everyone else out. Remember in the the one Indiana Jones movie where the guy runs out with the two huge swords and is flashing them all around, about to run and take Indy out? So what's he do? PULLS OUT A GUN AND BLAST THE FOOL! If you want to take out these people, holy poo, you're going to have to pick up a gun yourself. It's common sense.......I know many parts of this game arn't realistic, but this part is. All of the elite professions have their ups and downs. You're just being a jackass..........fix the few bugs that are wrong with the class and leave it alone.........See ya spanky


-Gnar




FOUR MORE YEARS.........

WAR IS PEACE

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

SLAVERY IS FREEDOM
atone48732
Thu Jan 15, 2004 11:12 am
#232

A gun is a COWARDS weapon


TKA is the way of the TRUE warrior


Thats all I have to say about that gnar




Oelos Takushi: smuggler proud member of Oi and Smugglers alliance pilot..

Elalia Takushi: Dancer and rebel pilot and member of Oi
bring back TEras Kasi and the melee profs as expertise skills.. bring some fun and real diversification to SWG
antares_Kauri
Thu Jan 15, 2004 11:58 am
#233

Frankly, I'm amazed a lot of you are saying TKA needs better defenses, or that TKA has low toughness, etc...have you actually looked at the numbers? TKA is already close to (or arrived at) being the best overall class in the entire game. Saying that ranged fighters are a problem that needs to be overcome is not a weakness. That's a basic characteristic of melee vs. ranged.



antares

master pikeman / master brawler / tka / fencer / heavy swordsman




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Hypatian
Thu Jan 15, 2004 4:50 pm
#234

Just a reminder to people who are new to this thread--this is about what the *relative* strengths of the teras kasi profession should be after the upcoming combat changes. For instance, if someone says "should be strong on defense" it means that after everything is through, that's where they believe the emphasis of the profession should be.

Please remember that this entire question is based on the idea of "What should a teras kasi artist be better at, what should a teras kasi artist be worse at, compared to other professions, after the change." Don't criticise based on current overall balance, it'll just muddy the waters.



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