Teras Kasi Archive

Yes, TKM's are--and should remain--the best defensive class. They should tank best of all the professions (not including CH as there is much debate there), and they do just that.

They also, unfortunately do the most damage of any melee class. This is something I have not seen in any other profession--where you are the best at both offense and defense.

For balance (what an awful word balancehas become), TKM's should be the top tanking melees, but the 4th most damaging melees.

The Pikemen should be the most damaging melees, but the least able to tank. And the others would be Fencer at #2 taking  damage and Swordsman at #3 tanking & #2 damage.

This would bring the classes to a more fair footing while keeping the TK's atop the list for tanks.

In many MMO's, the best tanks are normally a grouping class and need the other classes to do the damage. The TK's go against this, and it doesn't seem justified.

Just my 2 credits from a soon to be TKM (then pikeman soon after--we need a second pikeman on our server)

It's funny how every profession so many people think they should be the best-at-tanking profession.......all melee boards, there is always atleast 10 people who claim their profesison should be the best at tanking........in my opinion an unarmed person should not actually be BEST at taning.......maybe at dodging and crap, but notactually taking all the damage...LOL......

I still say CH is best at tanking, period. After all, if the pet is there and correctly blocking the enemy, who's taking 100% of the damage? Not me

yeah, atm TKA do seem to have the best defense, but no way do they do the most damage, swordsman and fencers do a lot more damage from what i've heard. (i might be wrong though)

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ussallentown wrote:
yeah, atm TKA do seem to have the best defense, but no way do they do the most damage, swordsman and fencers do a lot more damage from what i've heard. (i might be wrong though)

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Uh no. Fencers have much more defense with their dodging and defense vs posture\kd\dizzy! I'm not sure about damage...Im pretty sure we slightly out damage them.

really? hmm, guess i heard wrong then.

i've only played a tka, (TALK ABOUT FUN) of the melee classes, and i'm not even master yet, 2,1,4,3.

so i'm a bit of a noob to what melee class has high damage etc.

I score about even if not a lil less with my fencer moves, however b/c of bleeds I can take on harder opponets than I can using TK moves, and drop them faster. I also think fencers are the best defensive melee in the game, granted they dont have the high toughness but doesnt matter, if I COB and blind most mobs miss 3 out of 4 attacks on me. I am now atm thinking of dropping TKM since I rarely use it if at all, i'm trying to hold out till the combat revamp tho, then I guess i'll decide.

Fencer is a better tank than TKA, gotta love it when people start offa thread with misinformation. And as a master swordsman I think I tank better than I did when I was a MTKA.

TKA's howerver have the highest damage of the melee classes.

Highest damage output should have lowest tanking ability.

Lowest damage output should have the highest tanking ability.

And by damage output I mean DPS, not biggest hits. Tanking ability is the best damage mitigation through toughness and combat defenses like dodge, counterattack, etc.

i think on a scale of 1 to 10...

tkas shoudl be about.....

Damage-4, Defense-8, Evasiveness-1, Speed-7

Fencer

Damage-3, defense-1, Evasivness-7, Speed-9

Swordsman

Damage-9, defense-6, Evasivness-1, Speed-4

Pikeman

Damage-7, Defense-1, Evasivness-8, speed-4

Accuracy should be about even once master.....but if anythign has more accuradcy it is tka and fencer....but piekman and swordsman should have NO issues.

Realistically, meaning never in this game, Pikemen should have the choice of being best at defense, or second best at offense. Pike's are devestating offensive weapons, but too unwieldy to use defensively, while a staff is quite possibly the best defensive weapon ever created.

But nevermind all that, reality and SWG are not to be confused.

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ussallentown wrote:
yeah, atm TKA do seem to have the best defense, but no way do they do the most damage, swordsman and fencers do a lot more damage from what i've heard. (i might be wrong though)

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Uh no. Fencers have much more defense with their dodging and defense vs posture\kd\dizzy! I'm not sure about damage...Im pretty sure we slightly out damage them.

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NeoMoe99 wrote:

TKA's howerver have the highest damage of the melee classes.

Highest damage output should have lowest tanking ability.

Lowest damage output should have the highest tanking ability.

And by damage output I mean DPS, not biggest hits. Tanking ability is the best damage mitigation through toughness and combat defenses like dodge, counterattack, etc.

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I at master fencer PROMISE!! I can deal out better damage than a TK especially once resists are calculated. To many people see this 2300 hit and forget its kinetic damage hit a 100% kinetic mob for 2300 and tell me how much there ham moves.

I was too vague in the title. The Fencers absolutley have better status change resists. By defensive, I meant only that a TK mitigates more melee damage than the other classes and as such can take more hits (or misses for that matter).

As far as the best tanking, least damaging-- was that not mentioned long ago somewhere on these very boards as being the TK's role?

As toCH, I am 100% in favor of big, nasty critters out tanking any placer character. I just can't accept the vision of anyone standing in front of a Krayt or Kimo and surviving, but a Rancor (I mean a Rancor as it SHOULD have been made, not the weak chewtoy they are now) I can see holding it's own while we do our damage.

Thanks for not flaming me guys--I just wanted to see others views as to what TK should be.

Vinaddar