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Thread: Rifleman's Jawa Ion Stun Damage

SDrugger
Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:15 am
#1

I don't think you will find one thread anywhere of me complaining about anything, but please tell me this will be addressed.


I have full buffs, mind too, and can't beat an unbuffed rifleman, within 5m of me because of the speed and damage of a Jawa Ion... I am even a master doc and can cure my bleed during the fight... AND I had to use FOW.


I don't mind getting beat, I am on both sides of that fence plenty, but as of late I can't beat any riflemen carrying a Jawa Ion, what gives?




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Getoc
Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:34 am
#2

Not one word on this because as overpowered they are now some of them still cry nerf others all over .... like they did most time in the past . maybe one day the devs will recognize that slow but high damage weapons shouldn't have the same speedcapthat fast but low damageweapons should have .






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Ryche_Mykola
Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:35 am
#3

Are you wearing armor?


If you are, make sure it has stun protection.




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SDrugger
Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:46 am
#4

Armor with stun protection? I think my server is the only one that has the resources to make that, and it still can only get up to 37% ABSOLUTE TOPS, that is the problem, you can take measures to protect you against certain things.. except this, the Jawa Ion can't be stopped right now.



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piezo
Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:56 am
#5

Oh no, an opponent you cant instantly kd/dizzy and kill in 2 seconds?!

Oh the horror!




If the guy was within 5m of you, you should have just busted out a warcry on him, and either KDd him, or just head hit him till dead(riflemen blow a lot of mind on specials, especially if he was unbuffed like you said) A tka can do an awful lot of damage in the 10 seconds he would be delayed. You attack crazy fast and almost never miss. Many riflemen also don't wear helmets, because it drives their ham costs to insane levels.



I can almost see a complaint if this guy killed you before you could get close to him....but you yourself said he was 5m away.



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CRisCOCalmetri
Thu Jan 15, 2004 11:12 am
#6

I'm a master tkm and a master rifleman and All i have to say to you is that You need more practice. TKM drops anything thats close to them except fencer because lets face it they dont fall down. The jawa ion gun is horrible. They dont make good ones and it does little dmg better then a pistol at a 5.8 speed. With the composite armor they have out right now A lazer rifle or T21 is useless against most targets. Our strongest atk hits where ever it wants and it usualy never hits the same pool twice. Use lunge or warcry and quit yer bitchin! lol. I'm currently trying to build an uber jawa to counter a certain guild on my server with the most insane composite armor I'v ever seen.



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atimes
Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:07 pm
#7

Have you tried muon gold, angerian fishak, powerboost and willpower buffs?


Just with muon gold, fishak and powerboost I can get my mind around 2500 easily.


1100 base


550 with powerboost


500 muon gold


500 fishak


1550 + 1100 = 2600 mind.


Get an additionalmind boost from a dancer and slap an additionalwillpower boost to double your willpower and eat some rhyscate and willpower foods and your mind will be so high and regen so fast nothing can drop you.


also don't forget the usual. Never stop moving to decrease their accuracy and since they have a ion cannon if your helmet doesn't have stun protection take it off since it's doing you no good.

atimes
Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:11 pm
#8

Or you could just do what everyone else does when they lose


Head over to the riflemen forums and start ranting about them being overpowered.


Make sure you use all caps, bad spelling and a bunch of l33t speak. Here's a title to help get you started:


"RIFLEMN U R OVERPOWRED U NEED A NERF"


Make your whine as uninformed as possible. Rant about overpowered rifle specials like fast blast and last ditch.


Then to make it REALLY good complain that when you get close to the rifleman they take out a sword and start hitting you with it and that's unfair and "riflemen" need a nerf. (I kid you not. There is a guy floating around these forums complaining about TKA's because when he runs away the "TKA" takes out a rifle and start's shooting so he wants "TKA" nerfed because of this)

SDrugger
Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:43 pm
#9

Unbelieveable...


Let me just say this, there are MANY factors involved with what happened, sorry I didn't explain every detail to prove myself to some of you UBER LEET DOODS.


Anybody who PvP's on SS can tell you that there is ONE thing that is a problem right now, it is NOT riflemen, it is NOT knowing how to use TKM skills, including Lunge, Warcry, Stun, Dizzy, KD etc... it is a Jawa Ion Rifle.


Should the Jawa Ion be nerfed? I didn't say that either, I said the ISSUE should be ADDRESSED. My solution would be to make 1 piece of equipment that can counter it (like the 80% Kinestic Composite that everybody wears) so that we at least have a choice of saying, "OK, I KNOW I am going to be attacked by a Jawa Ion, so I will equip this 80% Stun helm, and hope they don't pull out a T21 or Laser." Which they don't do know, because everybody knows all you need is a good sliced Jawa Ion, and you own... Hell you don't even need to be master.




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SDrugger
Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:50 pm
#10






atimes wrote:

Have you tried muon gold, angerian fishak, powerboost and willpower buffs?


Just with muon gold, fishak and powerboost I can get my mind around 2500 easily.


1100 base


550 with powerboost


500 muon gold


500 fishak


1550 + 1100 = 2600 mind.


Get an additionalmind boost from a dancer and slap an additionalwillpower boost to double your willpower and eat some rhyscate and willpower foods and your mind will be so high and regen so fast nothing can drop you.


also don't forget the usual. Never stop moving to decrease their accuracy and since they have a ion cannon if your helmet doesn't have stun protection take it off since it's doing you no good.






This is good advice... now that I think of it, I didn't have a mind buff, I was using Moun Gold though... (The last instance, believe me I didn't get beat 1 time, then start a thread) Anyway, I haven't used Fishak, "rhyscate and willpower foods" but I will, and see if that helps.



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antares_Kauri
Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:05 pm
#11

The 2.5x damage multiplier has been gone since the last publish.

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wildcard1973
Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:06 pm
#12






Ryche_Mykola wrote:
I should add this also:
If you hit the person while they have that Ion Rifle equiped , we do 2.5 times more damage to them.




Negative Ghostrider....they removed the melee damage modifiers a couple of patches ago.



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SDrugger
Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:08 pm
#13

Yeah, the stun helm is not ready yet, but should be today...


I think with the Helm and food mentioned above, as long as I buff I should be ok... to be fair, I am usually not talking about a 1 on 1 situation, so I am usually being hit by a Jawa when I am trying to fight somebody who should go down, but the Jawa guy kiting me makes it impossible, whereas, if I had some protection, then it would not be that big of a deal... right now it is just silly.




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